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    [–] victorz 55 points 10 months ago (17 children)

    Haven't run into a game yet that doesn't run on Linux when using Proton. 👌

    [–] cybersandwich 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The Finals works on Linux!

    In other news, I got a message saying I was banned from The Finals for playing on Linux.

    [–] victorz 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    That's gotta be rectifiable somehow. Did you contact some sort of support?

    [–] cybersandwich 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    It said I could reach out to support but I was hopping off and it didn't give me any links or anything actionable in the message. So I guess I can go hunt down the support info and complain.

    If I don't get unbanned, oh well. I guess I won't play that game anymore. Its not like I spent any money on it and my time invested in about an hour at this point.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    That ban also pop up on your steam account? Because if it does that can screw you in other games if they have community servers.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I was banned from The Finals for playing on Linux

    How is that not illegal?

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Well, civil rights lawyers have been pretty busy lately trying to stop the slide into facism, so they haven’t gotten around to making our choice of OS a protected class.

    Seriously though, why would it be illegal? It’s their game, so they get to be assholes and decide who gets to play it with them. I don’t think that’s ever going to change, and I’m not sure it should. We do the same thing in the Fediverse, deciding who gets to use the instances we control.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I would say claiming that a game supports a certain operating system and then banning players for playing it on the system is false advertising, especially if the game is paid.

    [–] Spiralvortexisalie 3 points 10 months ago

    The game is listed as not supporting SteamOS (Arguably the most popular linux distro for gaming right now) and incorporating drm that does not work on Linux, this is far from false advertising as I can see it. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2073850/THE_FINALS/

    [–] cybersandwich 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I know that's a turn-of-phrase but it's their game so they can do what they want.

    It probably trips some EAC flag because it realizes something is "amiss". Id guess going through proton might behave a little differently and they think you are cheating or installing hacked dlls or something so they ban.

    I know when other games have caught a wave of Linux users in bans they reverse them in time.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    If someone buys a product from you, you shouln’t be able to deny them from using it based on arbitrary criteria without a refund.

    [–] duffkiligan 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Don’t worry, they refunded his $0 for the free game.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

    Oh, it’s free? Then never mind.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Most of the games not running today would run perfectly if they did not have some bullshit anti-cheat implemented (Easy Anti-Cheat is I think the worst offender here).

    Source: personal experience checking ProtonDB for games I want to play

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Huh? Easy Anti-Cheat is the one that actually works for me on Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    see my reply to another comment here. I mentioned EAC simply because most games use it and don't enable the required flag for Linux support.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

    Ah, TIL! Thanks :]

    [–] Chee_Koala 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Battlebit Remastered ran fine with EZ anti-cheat through steam on Mint 21.3, with no exra steps required, just this week. Did something get fixed, or was I just lucky?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

    iirc Easy-Anticheat has a sort of "Lite" mode that also runs on Linux, enabling it makes the games work with Proton but iirc degrades the Anticheat capabilities on those Systems. Because the Linux Anticheat isn't as effective (and because it's an Opt-In) most games don't use it.

    Talking a lot out of my ass here but I think that's how it was explained back when they made that change.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    The only games that give me any trouble are some Japanese VNs, which can be absolutely cursed for some reason. Like, massive tech juggernauts like Cyberpunk are click and play, but I've spent hours getting books-with-PNGs working.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

    That's because their code quality is usually an absolute dumpster fire that only works if Wine exactly replicates obscure Windows bugs.

    [–] Wodge 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Destiny 2 still won't work, and Simracing is still a no go.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

    The simracing part is a real bummer. That's the only reason I'm still on Win.

    [–] SkyezOpen 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    That just means you can't buy 12 dlc to unlock the seasons, dungeons, raids, and whatever the hell else they're paywalling. Destiny got enshittified.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I recommend warframe as a destiny alternative. But Beware! if you like the game you may sink thousands of hours into it

    [–] Wodge 3 points 10 months ago

    Ha, jokes on you, already Legend rank 3. ~I have no life.~

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

    There are a couple, but I'm spoiled for choice with great games so the convenience of being able to run something on my Steam Deck means that the few that don't run just drop to the bottom of the backlog. Proton is really a brilliant feat of engineering.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    the one i am the most sad about is magicka 1 - great game but getting it to run on linux is (as far as i've found so far) pretty much impossible.

    Won't claim that it runs all that great on windows either though - getting through a chapter without crashing is rarer than i'd like it to be...

    [–] achilleas90 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I recently heard about this. I used to play it. I searched on the steam discussion page and there is a fan patch that fixes all the crashes. It is on github. I found it for you. Try this. https://github.com/pj1234678/MagickaFix

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    My problem is that I enjoy specific multiplayer games. League, Val, Finals. Those are the three right now and riot specifically seems a tad disinterested in Linux. Sadge.

    [–] Mango 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    League is owned by Tencent who is specifically interested in using the software for the benefit of the Chinese government as is mandatory for them. They don't want you using an OS with actual security. Heck, they don't even want you to see a skin or splash art that hasn't been approved by their government!

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    The anti cheat in league is literally a rootkit.

    When it came out there was an outcry and their statement was basically "okay okay, so its a rootkit. But guys, you can trust us! We're totally not going to do anything nefarious with it!"

    I can't believe people still play that shit.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    You mean Vanguard, which was announced but isn't actually in the game yet. Their plan is to add it late February or early March. We don't actually know any details about the implementation except that it won't be used in the macOS version.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Genshin Impact, anticheat thibjs you're cheating, blocked until fixed. Happens every update.

    [–] victorz 2 points 10 months ago
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

    Genshin works by now lol

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

    I’ve run into many, the latest being Rising Storm 2. Its development has been suspended and the EAC is a version that doesn’t work with Linux, so you can’t play on any servers except the ones that allow hackers. There’s also the issues with performance in Squad on Linux. Starship Troopers: Extermination also runs better on Windows. That’s just the ones I’ve had an issue with in the past month.

    That being said, I’m still not willing to go back to Windows, even to play these games.

    [–] fox2263 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    As a novice, how does one use proton, and can I install StarCraft 2

    [–] victorz 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    You install it from within Steam, ~~or using flatpak if you're installing Steam via flatpak~~ [Proton on flatpak has reached EOL, try installing via Steam instead]. Then in settings you set it so every game uses the Proton compatibility layer, or whatever it's called. You don't have to do it per game, it's a global setting (as well as a setting for each game if you prefer).

    I can't answer for a specific game though, you'd have to simply try it out or check a database which has info on games that can run using Proton. I don't know the site from memory.

    [–] fox2263 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    Thanks for the info!

    On Eindows, StarCraft 2 comes from the Blizzard battle.net launcher.

    I’m curious to know if I get a steam deck if I can play non steam games. I don’t really want to install windows on it.

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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Maybe i bricked something in my machine somewhere when messing with drivers for machine learning cuda support. But I often have games that are 'supported' through proton but fail to launch or even crash my PC. Metro exodus & deep rock to name a few. Other games do run great. But still things like steam big picture being laggy is annoying.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    yeh that'll probably be it tbf... the cuda drivers are specifically for scientific computing and are pretty rubbish for anything else unfortunately... even amd ones are like that :(

    however a way i found around it is to just push my gpu compute envs to docker and voila (also avoids the pain of installing the drivers cos nvidia actually provides a cuda docker image) :D

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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    For me it's mostly games that work for everyone else on Linux.

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