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Seems like something that WFH would solve without having to upend so many employee lives.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Austin isn't even that much cheaper and property tax in TX is heinous compared to CA.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not cheaper at all, actually. They only discuss income tax when folks claim that.

[–] canihasaccount 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Also, the topic was taxes, not cost of living. But it is understandable that when folks can't justify their bias they simply shift the goal posts.

Pay is higher in CA so that isn't the smug data point you thought it was.

[–] ripcord 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The topic was cost of living. Then someone mentioned it AND taxes. Then this person replied to the cost of living part.

Seems weird to read this conversation and see the claim bias and goalpost moving. They very clearly are not shifting anything.

Also you're making a pretty wild assumption that by stating facts with evidence that they're "biased". Don't be that guy/girl. I hate it when conservatives do that too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nope it is Taxes for the Company. The Company cares not one whit for the CoL of their Employees except when it affects the quality.

[–] ripcord 1 points 10 months ago

I see that you're shifting goalposts, neat.

[–] canihasaccount 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Average monthly salary in the cities is listed at the bottom of that link I gave. The two cities differ in monthly salary by $14 dollars on average, per the available data. Those same submissions show that the cost of living is ~20% higher in San Diego than Austin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not relevant as the topic is IT at Apple and not folks at McDonalds as well as being about Taxes for the Company. The Company cares not one whit for the CoL of their Employees except when it affects the quality.

[–] ripcord 1 points 10 months ago

It's relevant since the topic was cost of living. If you're going to try to talk to people, try to keep up with the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

all the tech companies should move to another smaller city in a blue state all at once. turn Salem OR or something into the next big tech hub

[–] surewhynotlem 9 points 10 months ago

Welcome to Raleigh!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or build a blue city on the triple-border of South Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming. Property is crazy cheap there. It's the perfect place for a big "blue utopia" city.

Because of those states' small population, just a small number of Democratic votes there could yield three states' electoral votes and six senators.

Republicans would lose forever if Democrats didn't gerrymander themselves into the coasts.

[–] mriguy 4 points 10 months ago

IIRC some red states have already floated the idea of not letting people vote for several years after moving there specifically to ensure that Republicans never lose control.

[–] NightAuthor 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bend OR has a decent sized Sony studio apparently.

[–] beetus 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Bend gets snowed out frequently and suffers from a lack of diversity. It could use some more folks for sure but idk if people would want to live there in the winter

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

austin is crazy expensive now. it was already starting to get that way when i lived there ~ 25 years ago.

and i'd pick the san diego climate any day over anywhere in texas.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

You think it's expensive now, but wait till everyone with all that California tech money rolls in and starts buying everything sight-unseen. And in cash.

[–] PuceDogs 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The average tax burden in Texas is actually higher than California. People see “no income tax!” and lose all ability to reason

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Wouldn't be the first time conservative voters misunderstand taxes