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"Nobody and nowhere will be safe": Experts say we can't hide from climate change (www.salon.com)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I'm sure the rich will be way safer, prepared, and capable to hide much better tho.

[–] kowanatsi 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The majority will get eaten. Who is gonna clean, cook, deliver, drive them about?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That will remain just as is today - their workers will be offered meaningless money (to buy things like water from them, or some other resource under their control). They will also get payed/kept alive to to keep others from eating the rich.

Its exactly the same as today, resource & production hoarders (billionaires, kings, etc) don't make any sense at all, that's why so much effort is needed to keep that status as is. Ofc it would be better for humanity for us all to live more equal lives, have the option to work at what each of us is the best at, etc.

What will get them eaten are things like population collapse (like 90+% of us finally wiped out).

[–] blazeknave 3 points 10 months ago

Nope. They get quality of life for protecting fascism. Just like private security does today.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you underestimate the impact of technological progress.

Back in the day, you needed an army who could betray you. Tomorrow, you can deploy a fleet of self-governing robots to kill thousands. Of course, only accessible to the rich.

For ordinary folk, the future is looking grim indeed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So you are saying we need Skynet as our lord and savior?

I've been saying that for ye years!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not at all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Well, I welecome Shodan as my daily planner.

[–] Sigh_Bafanada 5 points 10 months ago

Also the people that will already be dead. They don't care