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Actually you pinged on a good point - really it could come down to what the "counter terror" side defines as victory. One example that comes to me is the US in Afghanistan- we really didn't have a solid definition for victory other than a vague "destroy al-Qaeda" so we ended up there for 20 years and every bomb we dropped just radicalized more people.
For transparency, I wrote this question thinking about the Palestine Israel conflict. Israel's stated objective is to completely destroy Hamas, but that feels oddly familiar
As far as the Nagorno-Karabakh, I'm not familiar with that conflict, but I did a little peak and the news is saying it's back up. :/
for Nagorno-Karabakh, and its comparison with Palestine, this was an interesting podcast: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/01/podcasts/the-daily/armenia-nagorno-karabakh.html