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[–] Feathercrown 4 points 1 year ago (12 children)

If your slogan is inaccurate you will face resistance at every turn. Not to mention that some people using ACAB actually do think that all cops are personally bad.

[–] stevedidWHAT 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Words have social meaning, sorry not sorry.

ACAB means all cops are bastards

Because they enable if not encourage or participate in the problem.

Last, some does not mean the majority. Interesting that you’d be using this sort of logic, kinda tipping your hand…

[–] Feathercrown 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Words have social meaning but that meaning is easy to twist and corrupt if the words are new and if the meaning is unclear, both of which are true for most liberal slogans tbh, especially ACAB. You can't rely on conservative goodwill to interpret your slogan favorably when 1. you don't agree among yourselves what "favorably" is and 2. conservatives don't have goodwill.

Last, some does not mean the majority.

It doesn't have to be a majority, just a significant enough portion that people hearing the phrase will have heard multiple people using it in two different and semi-opposite ways.

Interesting that you’d be using this sort of logic, kinda tipping your hand…

Fuck off, and don't put me in a box. If you want to know my opinions you can ask me and I will answer truthfully. If I wanted to troll people and hide my real opinions I'd do something more interesting than arguing normally.

[–] stevedidWHAT 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, so conservatives don’t have goodwill which means they’ll twist anything regardless, self defeating argument

See point 1.

Wasn’t putting you in any box, just pointing out that generalization is bad, and that you were participating in that behavior. People will think what they want and not being informed enough of what the social implications of words mean is exactly why both sides are at odds. Get it or don’t get it.

[–] Feathercrown 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I appreciate the reasonable response. I do think it's important to reduce the ability of conservatives to twist liberal actions but you are right that a good portion will find a way to do it anyways :/

[–] stevedidWHAT 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you’re interested, and I think you may be, look into the solution to tolerance of the intolerant, cleared a lot of misgivings I had about the concept

[–] Feathercrown 1 points 1 year ago

The social contract one? Yeah it'a a very elegant way to avoid the issues for sure

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