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‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says::Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

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[–] BURN 3 points 5 months ago (7 children)

You don’t need to prove a financial difference. They are fundamentally different systems that function in different ways. They cannot be compared 1:1 and laws cannot be applied as a 1:1. New regulations need to be added around AI use of copyrighted material.

[–] SCB 0 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I agree. For instance, it should be secured in law that you can train AI on anything, to avoid frivolous discussions like this.

Output is what should be moderated by law.

[–] BURN 1 points 5 months ago (5 children)

No

Why are you entitled to use everyone else’s work? It should be secured in law that licensing applies to training data to avoid frivolous discussions like this. Then it’s an entirely opt-in solution, which works in the benefit of everyone except the people stealing data.

Output doesn’t matter since it’s pretty well settled it’s not derivative work (as much as I disagree with that statement).

[–] SCB 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the people stealing data

No one is doing this

Output doesn’t matter since it’s pretty well settled it’s not derivative work

Cool, discussion over.

[–] BURN 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It is stealing data. In order to train on it they have to store the data. That’s a copyright violation. There’s no way to interpret it as not stealing data.

[–] 5too 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It is not stealing. The data is still there. It is, at worst, copyright violation.

[–] BURN 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Copyright violations is stealing

[–] ultranaut 0 points 5 months ago

Stealing means someone has been deprived of their property, which is not the case for copyright violations.

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