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Tesla Cybertrucks Keep Getting Stuck In Snow (jalopnik.com)
submitted 10 months ago by dragontamer to c/realtesla
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We all know that Cybertrucks have had a less-thank-lackluster release. Not many of these trucks could have been made yet.

Nonetheless, video-after-video of these beasts keep getting stuck in the ~~mud~~ snow in this case, now with snowy weather blanketing part of the north-east. Jalopnik is blaming tires, which sounds like a possibly valid issue.

But given the failures in the mud last month, I'm now wondering how much of this is perhaps a bad traction-control algorithm, or other feature of the cybertruck? Maybe its just the shear mass alone that is wrecking the traction.

In either case: the Cybertruck has no staying power in mud or snow. I can't imagine this going well in any offroading event or other similar trucking duty. If the cybertruck loses traction in these simple snow cases, there's no way it could be used as a plow for example.

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[–] dragontamer 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

mid-sized gasoline truck

F150 ICE gets 16MPG and 23-gallon tank or 368 miles of range. I know people who even opt for after-market 40-gallon tanks for 600 or 700+ miles of range in practice (not for "really" 700 miles, but because towing is so inefficient you need the extra fuel). But yeah, when you remove the RV trailer or boat or whatever you're towing, the truck can go hundreds of extra miles without filling up which is convenient for road-trips.

F150 Lightning has...

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2022-ford-f-150-lightning-platinum-ev-range-test.html

We spent many hours at the helm our 2022 Lightning with a slightly sweaty upper lip thanks to an average ambient temperature of 81 degrees (that's hot for us), and in the end we'd logged a total of 332 GPS-verified miles, about 10 miles more than what we saw on the Lightning's onboard trip meter. That's a whopping 32 miles more than the EPA estimate, netting out to a 10.7% improvement.

So that 254 miles Cybertruck test is kind of dogshit actually.

[–] Anticorp 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The F150 is a full-sized truck. A mid-sized truck would be a Ford Ranger, Chevy Colorado, or Toyota Tacoma. They don't typically have 23 gallon tanks. The Colorado has a 19 gallon tank and gets around 12-14mpg city and 18-20mpg on the highway. Split the difference (16mpg) and that's 304 miles on a tank, or just a little better than the Tesla.

[–] dragontamer 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A 20% difference in range is 'just a little better' to you?

We all know that 45F test for Cybertruck barely holds in snow, as Li-ion degenerates quickly below freezing. That 254mi test is going to be 220mi or less as the temperature drops to 30F, 20F or below... As expected for these snowy or snow-plow conditions.

In any case, Cybertruck range is awful even in the best of conditions.

Cybertruck also ain't comparing itself to an lol Ford Ranger.

[–] Anticorp 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't LOL the Ranger. That's a pretty awesome truck. The Colorado is awesome too, as is the Tacoma. The Tacoma is best for off-road, and the Colorado is best all around, including hauling and towing.

I think you're misunderstanding my point. I'm not defending the cyber truck overall. Its inability to traverse anything beyond roads should be a deal killer. The bed is designed terribly and should also be a deal killer. The price alone is a deal killer for most people. I just didn't think 50 miles less was a huge difference. But the point you made about the cold is valid. I'd lose up to half of my range in my Volt when it got below freezing. If the Tesla loses even 30% of its already lower range, then that's too low of a range for a truck.

You said the Cybertruck isn't comparing itself to a Ranger, but every picture I've seen of it makes it look like a small mid-sized truck. Are you saying it's supposed to be a full-sized truck?

[–] dragontamer 2 points 10 months ago

You said the Cybertruck isn’t comparing itself to a Ranger, but every picture I’ve seen of it makes it look like a small mid-sized truck. Are you saying it’s supposed to be a full-sized truck?

Fair enough. I've followed enough marketing that I know that Tesla fans are comparing it to the F150. Lets put it that way.

The stupid Cybertruck angles are inefficient with space (both cab-space and bed-space), so yeah, it ends up being closer to a Ranger with regards to bed size and cab space.