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[–] Dadifer 10 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Democratic socialism is definitely a viable alternative. Even capitalism with a strong safety net vis a vis Nordic countries is better.

[–] quindraco -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Capitalism with a strong safety net sounds like you're avoiding the question. The question is how to replace capitalism, not how to improve it.

How are you defining democratic socialism? Usually when I ask people to define socialism they answer with capitalism with extra undefined steps whereby the set of employees of a business is legally forced to be equal to that business's set of owners. I'm not familiar with "democratic" as a modifier to the term, though.

[–] Dadifer 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The right answer is most likely a mixed system, so will most likely include some form of capitalism.

Wikipedia describes what I mean pretty well.

[–] quindraco -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The article you linked has at least 3 different kinds of socialism that satisfy "democratic" socialism:

Democratic socialists have promoted various different models of socialism and economics, ranging from market socialism, where socially owned enterprises operate in competitive markets and are self-managed by their workforce, to non-market participatory socialism based on decentralised economic planning.[127] Democratic socialism can also be committed to a decentralised form of economic planning where productive units are integrated into a single organisation and organised based on self-management.[22]

What definition do you mean by it?

[–] Dadifer 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think your question was, "has anyone thought of a viable alternative to pure market capitalism", to which the answer is yes.

[–] Jtotheb 2 points 10 months ago

But they wanted to move the goalposts :(((

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