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I'm absolutely fine with trans jokes or dead baby jokes or literally anything, just make sure and not to forget the joke part
Yeah, these aren't even jokes, more like some weirdass gross power fantasy.
I am trans, and it's hard to not take the insults personally, especially since this "edgy comedy" is coming from a comedian I used to admire and respect. What the fuck, Dave?
I can’t believe that’s a real joke he told—that’s not even a joke. I honestly haven’t watched any of his polemic ones because I just didn’t care to watch his standup anymore. When he lost his bright, loose energy he used to have during performances, I just wasn’t interested anymore. And now this is how far one of the previous greats has fallen?
It’s a classic. Rape! Ha ha ha. Amirite? It takes true genius to think that up. /s.
I had no clue his act was that pathetic.
You have to be just the ultimate asshole to think this is funny. When he did the equivalent of “my best friend is trans” qualifier on stage, the rabbit hole he went down became pretty obvious. He’s so talented that he doesn’t have a single person who can give him feedback. I guarantee you he’s surrounded by yes men and other comedians who are too chicken shit to say anything. Money and power corrupt always.
It's like a ricky gervais joke without the irony. What we have here is a guy with a grudge. He got cut; now he's lashing out. I'm pretty sure jo rowling did the same thing.
That's just the recycled joke every conservative talking head has told. It's not even creative.
Same joke about bathrooms or sports. "I'll just tell them I'm a woman, hurr durr."
Get new material if you're going to try to be edgy, Dave.
That's the type of joke someone's uncle would make in the bar after a few too many, or the one you think of and know better than to vocalize it... because it isn't really funny.
Louis CK can jokes about pedos and yet it is hilarious and generally well-received. This joke gives strong "I identify as an attack helicopter" energy. It is not funny, and he's basically just repeating the shitty talking points of right-wing pundits, and without sarcasm. It is humour-by-applause, it is not meant to be a satirical joke, but to have people who agree applause and cheers.
I’ve thought for quite some time there’s fertile ground for jokes about the trans experience, but they really need to be told by people who have lived that experience. There is something cosmically funny about being born into one body and feeling it is the wrong one.
why do you think only people who have been trans should be making trans jokes?
In general it takes a level of skill to tell a joke about a marginalized group without punching down that is exceptionally rare. For example, I can think of one or two male comedians who have told rape jokes that did not make rape victims the butt of the joke. If a trans person tells a joke about the trans experience and fucks it up, other trans people won’t feel like a cis person is just adding to the atmosphere of hate toward them.
I think it definitely needs to be done tactfully and without hate, but joking about one another is an important part of being included and feeling like we all belong together.
My philosophy of comedy is that you can joke about any tragedy you want, but make it absolutely fucking crystal clear that you are on the victim's side. Plus, punching up is always funnier than punching down.