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Over 80 percent of new cars sold in Norway were electric in 2023 (www.theverge.com)

submitted 10 months ago by L4s to c/technology

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Over 80 percent of new cars sold in Norway were electric in 2023::New figures released by the Norwegian Road Federation say 82.4 percent of new cars sold in the country last year were electric, up from 79.3 percent in 2022. Tesla, Toyota, and Volkswagen were the most popular brands, with Tesla’s Model Y making up almost a fifth of new sales. Reuters notes that Norway intends to end the sale of new petrol and diesel cars in 2025.

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[–] DacoTaco 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Plugin hybrids arent ice either. I can drive my audi a3 full electric for as long as there is charge in the battery.

I agree they need to be seperated in statistics, but law wise, keep them as electric. They are a good stepping stone to prepare us for whats to come

[–] Buffalox 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Next year it will be illegal to sell any kind of ICE car in Norway, including hybrid / plugin hybrid. So at least Norway doesn't agree.
Also we have made tests in Denmark, that shows that Hybrid does not come even close to live up to the promises of car makers, that were the basis for tax deductions.
I understand the advantage of Hybrid, combining electric and long range at lower cost, but they are not the same as a fully electric car, and shouldn't share those tax advantages.

[–] DacoTaco 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Fair, in regard to tax advantagea they shouldnt be the same as electric. I agree with that.

Its stupid that my audi has the same tax advantages as a kia ev6 despite it beeing bad, and if not worse, for the environment.

But i wouldnt say that law wise they should be considered like ice cars, They arent that. Optimally, they should be considered what they are : hybrids, a step between ice and ev. They arent ice and they arent ev's either. Yet, as is, nobody looks at hybrids so we just deal with them like ev's. Better that than ice imo or i, as a single guy renting a place, would be royally fucked that i would be forced to take a ev i cant charge at home or ice that i would pay a shit ton for

[–] Buffalox 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Self charging hybrid is easy, they should be considered ICE no doubt IMO.
But I agree it's more difficult with plug in hybrid. Because they may drive 90% as an EV, or they may drive 90% as an ICE car, that was just cheaper because it had a tax advantage.
Problem is if you tax them close to EV, it will be exploited by people who kind of use them just like ICE cars.
However in Norway it will soon not matter much, because all cars that have any kind of Internal combustion engine, is considered ICE, and will be illegal to sell from 2025!
Maybe a bit dramatic, but if they are already at 80% EV of new car sales, they are definitely on track.

[–] DacoTaco 2 points 10 months ago

Oh ye, in the case with norway, if electric is working then fuck hybrids!