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[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Canadian governments of various stripes have tried to shield the countryโ€™s milk, cheese and egg sectors from international competition>

Then maybe the cheese should taste better. I emigrated 20 yrs ago. Even fancy Canadian cheeses taste like Cheeze Whiz to my palatte. UK cheese tastes like dairy, not liquid fat. Hopefully the Irish will step up where they're needed most now! ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

[โ€“] voluble 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

It's true, for the most part, the cheese market in this country is a flavour dystopia. I'd argue it's not directly the fault of cheesemakers, and I don't think there's some widespread national ignorance about what good cheese tastes like. I think it has a lot to do with our rules around raw milk.

In Canada, raw milk is more difficult to obtain than bulk heroin, and that guarantees that our cheese will be boring. It actually even affects imported cheese too, Camembert being an excellent example. Pasteurized milk Camembert (which is all you can buy here) is bitter, tastes like glue, and is not even worth eating. Raw milk Camembert is mindbogglingly complex and profound.

So, this regulatory fact folds into a pre-existing Canadian inferiority complex - we assume the cheese made here must be bland, so there's no real market for premium offerings. Give this system of rules and expectations decades to develop, and here we are.

Today, there are some excellent artisan cheeses made locally. They're not available in grocery stores, and they're very expensive. If those cheeses were more affordable and available, nobody would even consider buying the mass market stuff that fills store shelves currently.

That's all to say that, I don't think the solution necessarily needs to come from outside, or that there's even a quick and easy fix. We have to change the system of rules that brought us here. Maybe things would improve if we subsidized small, artisan cheese producers like some provinces do with their craft breweries and distilleries. Especially since cheese can have a short shelf life and wastage is more-or-less guaranteed.

PS - I don't know if you've ventured into Oka cheese from Quebec at all - it's got pretty decent flavour and is widely available. Worth a try if you haven't had it!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the detailed response. Is there an easy way to tell which cheeses are made with raw vs. Pasteurized milk? I'd love to more confidently try Canadian cheese, and will have to try Oka next time I'm at thd store!

[โ€“] voluble 2 points 11 months ago

Cheers! Always happy to talk cheese haha.

I believe it should be declared on the ingredient list on the packaging, if the cheese uses pasteurized or unpasteurized milk. Cheeses using unpasteurized milk are very difficult to find where I am (not a big city, but not a small city). Even specialist cheese shops don't often have them on-hand, but I always ask. Not sure on your jurisdiction, but it can be worth doing a web search for local cheesemakers in your area. There might be a little business making something excellent that probably never sees a grocery store shelf. Definitely that's the case in Western Canada.

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