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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Stamau123 to c/world
 

Advanced weapons include precise missiles, surface to air missiles and air defenses transported mostly via Damascus airport which has come under repeated strikes attributed to Israel

As the U.S. was supplying Israel with military aid, so is Iran delivering weapons to its regional allies, in transports through the Damascus airport mostly, while other weapons transports arrive through other locations.

The frequent strikes on Syria in recent days, attributed to Israel, were for the most part intended to thwart such transfers from Iran, that were meant to increase the number of precise missiles, anti-tank missiles and air defenses including the Iranian made surface to air 358 missiles also called SA-67) that can intercept drones, planes low flying aircraft and missiles, available to Hezbollah.

Iran had already supplied its Lebanese proxy with a substantial stock of missiles which have been used by Hezbollah against Israeli drones recently but have thus far failed to shoot any down. Israel has been able to intercept the 358 missiles using its air defenses.

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[–] fastandcurious -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

Missile and bombs are never the answer, that should be pretty clear, American politicians get some kind of orgasm by destabilizing and killing hundreds of thousands of people every so often, summon Netanyahu for war crimes and all other fucks that support him

[–] Why9 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Look I get it, and you're probably right, but this world doesn't work in that way.

The US just side-stepped Congress to approve an arms shipment to Israel for the second time this month. Missiles and bombs aren't the answer, but we have to remain consistent.

And what will summoning Netenyahu achieve? He'll go to prison laughing (assuming the US ever let it get that far!), knowing his successor will reap the rewards of an uninhabitable Gaza full of a resentful, broken population fated to become the next Hamas for us to condemn in a few years' time. Israel will win land and space for more illegal settlements that'll go unchallenged because the US will continue to veto any action against them.

I don't agree military action is the answer but in the middle of a war where one side is being heavily supported, it makes little sense why the other side wouldn't seek some extra power as well.

[–] fastandcurious -2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I was all right with your comment until this:

broken population fated to become next hamas

Are you implying everyone there is future hamas?

[–] Why9 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you implying everyone there is future hamas?

No, and yes. If Hamas means resistance then sure. I don't see any Palestinians condemning Hamas because Hamas are literally brothers and sons and relatives of the survivors who have been born into oppression and have no option but to rebel or die.

Let's say you have a child, completely innocent, born into this world. Within a few years, he has survived multiple wars, seen violence and death dozens of times, and is already desensitised to mutilation and death by the time he's 7 years old. His family is dead, he's surviving on the good graces of strangers with no prospects for education and no moral compass in the form of parents to guide him on what's right and wrong.

By the time he's 17, he's being recruited into Hamas, who under a 70 year occupation, comprises people just like him, that want a free Palestine where children can be children and oppression isn't the norm. You're not going to reform him without removing his raison d'etre. Until there's Israeli oppression and no free Palestine, he's Hamas.

Do I agree with what Hamas did on October 7th? No. But in all forms of media and in history, people who are oppressed and free themselves from imprisonment and oppression are seen as heroes (if they're imprisoned unjustly, of course!), regardless of the number of people they kill in order to achieve their goals (like blowing up a Death Star, killing everyone on it).

The Star Wars' rebel alliance is an example. So is Katniss in Hunger Games or the Na'Vi in the Avatar movies. In my mind there's little difference between them. We don't condemn them as terrorists so why is Hamas different?

[–] fastandcurious -3 points 11 months ago

I am a Neanderthal when it comes to games so I don’t really understand the analogy, but I do feel like we are somewhat on the same page now, but I don’t really see hamas as a ‘hero’ sure you could argue that they are the byproduct of Israels brutality and want to free themselves, but I feel like killing/torturing even one innocent person is too many, I would be completely fine if they blew up the IDF.

Similarly I don’t think Palestinians don’t condemn hamas (although my guess is a lot of them do) because they are the good guys, but because they literally have no option and are too busy trying to save their lives than trying to dissect which side is wrong or right

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