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Cats ๐พ although I feel it is unethical to own pets, personally
I'd say it's unethical to breed them, but not to adopt them if that's in their best interest.
Yeah, breading is really messed up. If the cats have access to outside, i'd say it's ethical to adopt.
I think this is more of a problem with capitalism, than a problem with breeding being fundamentally wrong, we're incentivized to breed as poorly as possible, it's a race to the bottom.
That being said, I think some animals are bred pretty carefully, definitely not dogs and cats, but certain insect breeding operations are pretty ethical just because being ethical with them is insanely easy.
All pets?
I think owning a tarantula, for example, is perfectly ethical, because of the way tarantus live.
They should all be free to roam. BTW I'm not saying to make it illegal, just how I live.
Certain animals don't really roam as part of their lifestyle, most tarantulas are ambush predators, if you put a tarantula into a hole and regularly give it food, it doesn't dream of the outside world where it can roam freely, roaming freely is its worst nightmare because that's how it gets exposed to predators... tarantulas find a hole where they constantly get food and you can presume based on how they live in the wild that they've found the best hole ever.
They also show clear signs of stress when they are stressed, and they show less of those in captivity than in the wild.
That's my argument for tarantulas anyway.
If that is the case, than maybe it is OK.
Yeah, I think it's really case by case in the animal kingdom, we have to avoid anthropomorphizing everything.
It can be case by case for animals of the same type even. One of my cats is legit scared of outside and has no interest in leaving the house for any reason. The other cat is hesitantly curious so sometimes we bring him out on a lead. He never wants to wander further than a few feet though even if we prompt him to explore. They live good lives and feel safe neither really feels the need to roam far as I can tell.
We need to respect all living things, at least attempt too
I agree, I just think it's very unintuitive, we live with aliens.