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Speaking about Russia’s large-scale attack on Ukraine on 29 December, US President Joe Biden has emphasised that Congress must act quickly to approve more aid for Kyiv.

Source: European Pravda with reference to the White House

Details: The American president stressed that the most recent Russian attack is "a stark reminder to the world that, after nearly two years of this devastating war, Putin’s objective remains unchanged. He seeks to obliterate Ukraine and subjugate its people."

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[–] kameecoding 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I am from slovakia and the support for the Ukraine war is dwindling among the boomers, listening to my family regurgitate russian fake news about how Zelinsky bought a five million dollar villa in Egypt and then had the journalist killed is just fucked.

I guess it shows the strength of Orbans propaganda machine since we are hungarian and they watch those channels

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm in the exact same situation. It's crazy how easy it is to manipulate people, if you know what they're afraid of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

For as long as I've been on social media, seems social manipulation through disinformation is simply, easy. Unless someone is willing to check multiple sources that aren't politically bias, they're practically political pawns. I'm getting up therein age and it's insane how different, how polarized people are from just 40 years ago - many people are just simply not living in the same reality....

[–] mea_rah 10 points 10 months ago

I think the best way to look at it is to see their side. If your relatives are similar to mine, they don't really care about Ukraine or Zelensky. Not even in a negative way. They just want simple solutions to their problems that are actually very complex.

You understand that having a fleet of Migs that depend on russian technicians is not a reasonable thing if the biggest warmonger in the neighborhood is russia itself. You understand that Slovakia can't depend on russian gas or oil after russia proved many times, that they will not hesitate to use this dependency every opportunity they get. You understand that making concessions to russia for a promise of peace isn't going to stop them, because we tried that many times before. You understand that none of these problems have simple solutions.

But many people choose to be ignorant and believe politicians that promise simple solutions. "We will stop supporting war, negotiate peace in Ukraine and buy cheap reliable russian energy again" It sounds good, it sounds easy. So they will believe any lie that supports this "solution". Or pretend they believe it, because frankly in many cases I know they aren't really that stupid to believe some of the lies. They just choose to be ignorant and don't ask questions.

How can you depend on russian gas again if you saw them draining EU gas storage year before the invasion and after you saw them cheerfully proclaiming that your family will freeze to death? You can't. But people choose to ignore reality, because they don't like how it looks.

When you look at it this way, you understand that there's no reason to discuss Ukraine with your family. Because it's really not about Ukraine. It's about how much they pay for their groceries. And it's easier to believe that corrupt Zelensky is to be blamed for expensive bread rather than the fact that we trusted corrupt unstable country with our energy dependency and now have a lot of work, tears and blood ahead of us to dig ourselves from the hole we dug for decades.