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[–] blanketswithsmallpox -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That $30 is money you wouldn't have had in a country with universal healthcare. The tax has to come from somewhere.

[–] andy_wijaya_med 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You wouldn't need the 30€ in the first place if you've had a universal health care... Of course the money has to come from somewhere. What if you got sick again? Or someone if your family got sick again? You're fucked up.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The $30 all goes to the same bill FYI.

All that medical debt gets wrapped into a single bill. You pay $30x12x20 and it's gone. It takes work to get there though.

And you missed the point of saying that $30 is money you wouldn't have had if we enacted universal health care. It's not going to come without everyone losing the equivalent of their premium in extra taxes anyway. The benefit is when people need to go extra times.

[–] andy_wijaya_med 1 points 11 months ago

It's not the same. It's about social security. I pay high tax now with high amount of money for universal health care in my country, and I'm sure I would never ever have to spent that much money in my whole life for my health care or my family (I spent about 850€ per month only for health insurance). Most people pay less than that and that's okay. It's about the wealthy subsidizing the less wealthy.

Sure I can survive if I put everything to my saving. I would be able to pay the bill (I think, at least).

I don't have to worry about money at all if anyone of us got sick.