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Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of "Wayland breaking everything" isn't really accurate.

"In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!"

Nate's Original Blog Post

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Every change will bring it’s fair share of complainers

sometimes the complainers are right and sometimes they aren't

[–] CriticalMiss 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And when they're right, it's usually addressed. I say usually because GNOME exists.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In case of Gnome it was addressed, just by different people. Gnome 2 continues to live on as MATE, so anyone who doesn't like Gnome 3 can use it instead.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Likewise, KDE3 got forked to Trinity. But KDE kept producing (largely) quality software, so Trinity is pretty much an anecdote now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I don't understand why anyone ever expects a different outcome. They fork something that has quite some investment into the original version. How do they expect to keep up?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I seem to remember a lot of people upset about GPL V3 I don't remember how that was resolved.

[–] CriticalMiss 4 points 6 months ago

It was resolved by people not using it if they didn’t want to. Linux Kernel is still GPLv2