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[–] johker216 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

In Hebrew, there are many names for God - some of which are plural (a remnant from when Judaism was polytheistic).

It's also vav, not waw. The sound is a v.

Hard to forget a decade of Hebrew school.

[–] tjtherealbest 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Vav is a product of ashkenaszi pronunciations due to yiddish. Originally it's Waw. And the multiple names for God thing comes from Kaballah which certain groups of Jews actually do reject as mysticism and not originally being grom Judaism but added in after the second temple period due to the Zohar. Certain groups such as the Kairaites for example, even reject the Talmud, Mishnah, and Kaballah and stick to Torah and Tanakh only

[–] johker216 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's vav across many, if not most, Jewish ethnicities (not sure why you'd single out ashkenazi Jews) as well as predominantly a 'v' sound in almost all cases. I googled it and found that waw is accurate if we were talking about semitic origins of the letter, not its modern usage in Hebrew.

Adonai, Elohim, and El Shaddai. All 3 names are used in the Torah and all 3 are plural. We were taught that the God of Israel was one of many gods, but that the ancient Israelites were specifically chosen by this god. This god liked to war with the chosen people of other gods and the Torah is full of those tales. Basically, I'm not talking about kaballah but the authors of the Torah using multiple words for the name of God, some of which being plural.

[–] tjtherealbest 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I singled out Ashkenazi jews as most westerners aren't aware of other groups such as Mizrahi or Sephardi. It was for ease of following conversation in case anyone else stumbled upon the comment thread. And yeah, I was referring to the original pronunciation of the letter and the original form of the Tetragrammaton.

In terms of the usage of Adonai, Elohim, El Shaddai, or even Hashem, those are used at titles such as "Lord" and not the actual name of the Deity of Abraham correct? When you said "multiple names of God", I assumed you meant the Kaballah teaching that there are 72 names of God

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