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But the collective that excludes yourself. It’s like a “we without me”, which is also not the plural you.
Y'all
Uhm acktually that's two words joined together 🤓
Exclusive we is actually found in many languages, but usually it's the listener who is excluded. Malay kita "we" includes the listener, kami excludes the listener.
Doesn't spanish have this? I think it is nosotros and vosotros?
Yes we have vosotros (in Spain) or ustedes (in the rest of the Spanish-speaking world -can't speak for Equatorial Guinea though). But we don't call it a 4th person pronoun. It's just the plural form of the 2nd person pronoun:
1st singular: I / yo
1st plural: we / nosotros
2nd singular: you / tú, vos, usted if you wanna be formal
2nd plural: plural you, y'all / ustedes, vosotros
3rd singular: she, he, singular they / ella, él, elle (that last one mostly used among the young queer/progressive community in some countries)
3rd plural: they / ellos, ellas, elles (same above)
Don't know what a 4th person pronoun would be. And I'm a Spanish teacher in South America lol
Yes! Just don't say vosotros in Mexico or they'll think you're a dork
Otoh, in Spain if you say Usted or Ustedes they'll think you're a dork