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I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of us are here to avoid another corporate takeover of our preferred platforms. It would seem to me to be a tad irresponsible to allow Facebook into our space with open arms, allowing them to hoover up our data. I would love to keep using Lemmy.world, but will happily change instances if need be, and I feel many share that sentiment.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nope, I'm fine with small companies trying to make the fediverse better. Meta is full on enshitification, why wouldn't they bring a new form that we can't predict over here?

[–] CosmicCleric 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Meta is full on enshitification, why wouldn’t they bring a new form that we can’t predict over here?

The people who would be making comments are not the same people that are running Meta.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What does Meta get out of this?

[–] CosmicCleric 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Meta is full on enshitification, why wouldn’t they bring a new form that we can’t predict over here?

The people who would be making comments are not the same people that are running Meta.

What does Meta get out of this?

Would I be talking to the c-suite, or to regular people?

Edit: I get it, truly. You want to punish the corporation for bad behavior, and I definately agree with that sentiment; voting with your wallet.

But we are talking about excluding people from conversations, and not hurting the c-suite. Defederation hurts everybody else more than the c-suite. The 800 lb gorilla is already dancing in your living room.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No really, what do they get out of it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's always odd when people stretch inclusivity to mean that absolutely everyone should be able to freely breeze past any and all possible barriers, with no effort.

Internet security, you guys. There has to be SOME minimum activity requirement, or this whole site would be swamped with an insane number of bots. There are multiple written tutorials and video tutorials that tell you exactly what to click and when, in order to sign up. How much easier does it need to be to join? What can you do beyond a video walkthrough for account creation? How the hell did they join reddit? I just don't get it.

Sometimes these topics kind of remind me of people like the parents who argue that babies and toddlers belong at raves and busy nightclubs. Sometimes having multiple different groups are ok. You don't usually see videos about how to fix your car on the cooking channel. You also don't usually get proper accounting advice from random insect documentaries.

[–] CosmicCleric 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It’s always odd when people stretch inclusivity to mean that absolutely everyone should be able to freely breeze past any and all possible barriers, with no effort.

Internet security, you guys. There has to be SOME minimum activity requirement, or this whole site would be swamped with an insane number of bots.

Nice strawman you got there. We're talking about access to comments made by human beings.

In all forms of communication and commenting, moderation should happen to remove bots as much as possible.

How much easier does it need to be to join?

Apparently people are used to a single server source, and a federation of multiple servers seems to be a blocking point for them. /shrug

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

What do you suggest then? I'm listening. There has to be some in-between that you must see.

You're making it out as if there's an easy solution that makes everyone happy.