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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by snek to c/world
 

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I swapped the original article at the request of a mod to from a source deemed more reliable, but to avoid confusion when reading the comment section prior to this edit, here is the link to the original article. I chose the Relief Web source listed by some who commented. Cheers!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What? The article says exactly what the report says. 'Allege' is legal shorthand for 'we say this is true'

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The title does not say allege. The title says something very different

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, the title says precisely the same thing. To 'report' something to be true is the same as to 'allege' something to be true.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

To report something is to make a finding. You may have an interesting definition of report, but the common usage is about findings. The UN did not make a finding that Israel committed a mass killing. The implication of the title is the UN made a determination which it did not do.

The UN is calling on Israel to investigate an allegation but it did not make a finding.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/report

  • To return or present as the result of an examination or consideration of any matter officially referred.
[–] snek 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like this is quite pedantic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

considering you and I have both agreed the title is misleading. I'm not being pedantic. You understood what I meant, and you have acknowledged it.

So when the question of what the title actually means came up, it seems like a worthwhile discussion

[–] snek 1 points 11 months ago

Actually I read it again and changed my mind... wrote you another comment, do check it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think we've moved out of 'not understanding' and into the realm of 'you don't want to believe and you also don't want others to' territory.

Which would be fine if you were more honest about it. Have a nice day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Fighting over dictionary definitions is the least interesting type of discussion. That's why we have dictionaries