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[–] rainerloeten 58 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Someone should make a post about why blocking Threads is good and why it's not to be confused with gate keeping. If not properly communicated, this could look very badly for the uninitiated and they're not to blame.

Some people of course have an educated opinion against blocking, but many presumably don't know the reasons behind it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Care to give a summary on why you think they should be blocked ahead of any bad acting? Yes, there is some concern about Meta attempting EEE, but ultimately they're a large platform that can bring a lot of users and attention to the Fediverse. There's nothing preventing large instances from blocking them down the line, and with user level instance blocking coming in 0.19 to Lemmy (not sure if Mastodon et al have something similar), you can block them personally yourself if you wish, rather than having that thrust upon you by your instance admins.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Their "test run" was only sending threads posts and not receiving any fediverse posts.

This is them shouting their intent, as far as i'm concerned.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because Meta has a long track record of being outright an evil corporation(not figuratively, literally).

Meta has already shown its hand multiple times, why would it be different this time?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"evil corporation" is quite the tautology.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Not OP, but some corporations are "less evil" than others, or at the very least less obvious about being evil. "Evil corporation" means they're extra evil.

[–] uberkalden 3 points 10 months ago

No one has articulated it well. It's all just "meta bad". Can't we just defederate if they pull some crap and be no worse off than we are now?

[–] rainerloeten 1 points 10 months ago

Essentially because after they did something bad it's likely too late. But others can explain this in more detail with more knowledge than I have.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago
[–] malean 11 points 10 months ago

I feel like that one instance not blocking threads should exist, like a common ground where people can interact and maybe convert threads user to leave big corpo and join us

[–] yuki2501 5 points 10 months ago

It is gatekeeping, but gatekeeping in the way of "Stop corporate offices in this town" and not "Stop people who we don't think worthy from getting in".

As for why blocking threads is good, please google "Facebook Cambridge Analytica", "Facebook russian accounts" and "Facebook fake republican accounts". Also: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-knew-radicalized-users-rcna3581

Please don't treat facebook like a "decent corporation which only committed honest mistakes". It sold users' data to corporations, to the Kremlin, allowed users to be specifically targeted by extremist right-wing propaganda and spread disinformation about various international affairs.

Furthermore, there is absolutely zero guarantee that Facebook won't scan OUR posts for training AIs.

It's a known bad actor. Allowing Facebook into the fediverse would be as ludicrous as allowing Russians to live and establish bases in the US during the cold war.

[–] bullshitter 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because , we know better than to trust lizard people.

[–] rainerloeten 1 points 10 months ago

Nailed it. No one can argue with that 🧠

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] rainerloeten 2 points 10 months ago

This is a great example to explain it to people who are familiar with the topic. But if I tell that to a "random" friend, word for word, they won't know what I'm talking about :D

[–] chitak166 -3 points 10 months ago

Mob mentality?