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[Discussion] A general approach toward companies embracing the Fediverse? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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While Threads' integration with Mastodon has caused a big stir on both Mastodon and Lemmy, it is not the only for-profit company moving in that direction. Flipboard has announced it is embracing ActivityPub and gradually phasing in Mastodon integration. I have read elsewhere that Flipboard already works with Pixelfed, too. This is another big corporate participant in the Fediverse: "Flipboard notched more than 145 million monthly users and is tied with Twitter as among the top five traffic referrers on the web" according to this CNET article.

From what I can find online, Tumblr is also still slowly working to bring its 135 million monthly active users to the Fediverse via ActivityPub integration. I can only assume more companies will connect to the Fediverse as it grows.

In general, how do we want to treat commercial entities here? Should the Fediverse in general (and Lemmy in particular) attempt to be a non-commercial walled garden? Should we federate with commercial entities and leave users to block instances? Or should we federate with some organizations but not others, and if so what is a criteria for making that distinction?

I am expecting spicy comments since this is such a divisive issue. Please be civil and respectful.

(Side note: Users can now individually block instances in Lemmy 0.19, though it is not equivalent to defederation. From the release notes: "any posts from communities which are hosted on that instance are hidden. However the block doesn’t affect users from the blocked instance, their posts and comments can still be seen normally in other communities.")

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Users can now individually block instances in Lemmy 0.19,

Assuming that the Lemmy devs implemented this thoughtfully, thoroughly, and correctly on their fist attempt is a bad bet. Even their description seems to indicate that users would be able to see comments and direct messages from blocked instances.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was skeptical from the beginning because it goes against the entire design of ActivityPub, so it's not going to work as well as people hope. Still cool for cleaning up your feed if you're browsing by all,

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

As expected, the instance block option was implimented poorly. It fails to block posts and comments from users on the blocked instance, if the post or comment is made on an instance that is both federated and not blocked.

But it will not show replies from the user on the blocked instance in your inbox.