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Just Stop Oil activist jailed for six months for taking part in slow march [UK]
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2023
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I'm amazed at how few people realise this. I don't agree with jailing this guy but people seem to think that as long as a protest gets noticed by people it MUST be effective.
Arguing with anger makes people who are already on your side agree with you, arguing with calm and logic might actually change a few minds though.
Just Stop Oil are the former and appears to me to be doing nothing to help the effort, do they think that people believe oil is good for the planet and that they're actually making others aware of the environmental impact? Nobody is learning anything but plenty of people are getting pissed off with the cause because it's unnecessarily disruptive and furthers nothing.
Edit: you guys proved the point phenomenally. There's the people already on their side agreeing, meanwhile at least 2 commenters who are anti oil are painted like we coat penguins in it for fun in our free time. Why do so many suggest it's either JSO or ineffective sanctioned protests? Could there not be something in between? What would be so wrong with protesting directly to MPs by the houses of Parliament? You could chain yourself to whatever if you need to make a strong point, throw oil/paint/whatever at 10 downing street, do something that the decision makers will actually notice and have people talking about you favourably. Most conversations about JSO are one side saying they're fucking morons, and the other side naively echoing this chamber like that has any chance at changing anyone's mind.
Ah well, lemmy seems even less flexible than reddit did with its views, so I shouldn't be surprised. There is no room for nuance here.
Yup. Unfortunately, these people live in an echo chamber of like minded people, so they never realize how far out of touch they are.
I don't think it's out of touch to understand how a protest works. If a protest annoyed you once and made you dislike the cause, that doesn't seem like the protest was doing it wrong, it seems like you were never going to be sympathetic to the cause.
Ironically, people on your side seem to specifically NOT know how protests work. Pissing off the masses does not bring people to your cause.
I'm also sympathetic to the cause and do a lot to improve my carbon footprint, but I'm the bad guy here because I believe that simply pissing off others will not reduce the worlds reliance on oil.
What has actually been achieved with these protests? Do people exist who didn't know oil was bad until they saw someone holding up traffic or chaining themselves to a football goal? It seems like disruption for disruptions sake to me.
You're completely wrong. There was never a protest that didn't piss off the masses. There was never a cause that didn't piss off the masses. Everything pisses off the masses because the masses are whiny crybaby snowflakes. So what is your solution? Sit back and let the government kill us?