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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

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I somehow missed this one until now. Apparently it was once mentioned in the comments on the old sneerclub but I don't think it got a proper post, and I think it deserves one.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Did you know brent dill is back on twitter?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I did not. Got any details?

Also FWIW I discovered this yesterday: https://archive.ph/SFCwS

No idea if it's true, but even if so I don't think it would exonerate him (though it would put Aella in a worse light)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

first of us to give in and get an Urbit account clearly gets the best dirt

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I made one out of morbid curiosity years ago but this was way before they decided to start crypto grifting for cash, so I’ve got no doubt my blah blah self-sovereign something something decentralized mumble mumble digital property has been liquidated by the king for not paying taxes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

but @self, HOT ABYSSES IN YOUR AREA

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it is the garbage I crave at a price far too grave for humanity

god, how much does a garbage scow or whatever’s the smallest non-transient address allocation cost these days?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

i believe the "comets" are free and you don't need to become a shitcoiner

also i believe the 64-bit addresses are called "peasant's filthy hovel" and have names like ~sodomy-dumass-cmpsci-ilitrt

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@dgerard me: what is an urbit
wikipedia: look, you really don’t want to know, but if you insist…
me: 🙀

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

David wrote the better parts of that article! we’ve also got a few threads on urbit here on awful.systems (for example) — we dig into Yarvin’s original spec and find where he flat out says the namespace is meant to be an implementation of neoreactionary (technofascist) ideas, and I find some light but damning evidence that all of the supposedly interesting ideas in urbit are poorly implemented, plagiarized versions of ideas that Eelco Dolstra wrote about when describing the mathematics behind the then-obscure NixOS, for a master’s thesis whose publishing date was right before when Yarvin claims to have started on urbit

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

oh also, Tlon, the company behind urbit that certainly isn’t just Yarvin and Thiel hiding behind a shrub giggling, is a cult accelerator responsible for at least one high-profile death cult (Remilia, who host a bunch of infrastructure on urbit and are extremely active in the urbit community)

just in case you wondered if this rabbit hole led anywhere remotely sane

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Graydon Hoare pointed out on Mastodon (and more) that Urbit was in fact the Antiversity that Moldbug conspicuously failed to write up in the Unqualified Reservations days.

He believes Urbit will perform the social control function that he thinks universities perform.

You have to unpack a few zillion very dumb social assumptions there. (Or, y'know, not.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@dgerard Oh, the Antiversity! I remember that. I think it was one of the first Lovecraftian horrors I was exposed to when I first started to take an interest in this particular rabbithole of weird.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

El Sandifer and I just could not work out what the arsing fuck Yarvin was going on about there, El worked way too hard trying to track it down, and eventually we decided he just failed to write it despite taking people's money to. Kicking myself we didn't work out it was Urbit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I did not have Mr. Rust in the anti-Urbit camp (or even in the know-about-Urbit camp)

Also I guess Wikipedia is now part of the Cathedral

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

we're all convinced we're Denis Diderot, none more Cathedral

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@self So basically it's like a science fiction novel, except that they haven't realised that it's one of those novels where the author develops an entire society based on some weird totalitarian cult just so they can spend the rest of the plot demonstrating how nutso said society is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yep! all these weird fuckers dream of pulling an L Ron and being taken seriously

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the worst part is I’m pretty sure the address ~sodomy-dumass-cmpsci-ilitrt would cost a lot more cause it’s both memorable and accurate

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

sadly not a legal urbit address. It was slightly more disgusting effort than I was expecting to find the actual list of syllables - which are different as prefixes and suffixes - but it's in this file.

Here's how the names work.

These links are cursèd and nobody should click on them, but if you're going out seeking this level of psychic damage it's the merest pixie breath.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

for some reason I am reminded of noted crazy person luke-jr's tireless advocacy of Tonal...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

import qualified Urbit.Ob.Ob as Ob (fein, fynd)

Why

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

this is how we take out the Cathedral

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

These links are cursèd and nobody should click on them

so of course I immediately dove in and… what the fuck, the University of Illinois has a fucking Martian Computing (the incredibly cringe neoreactionary fictional framing Yarvin used to smuggle his ideas into nerd circles) class?

also I am so thankful you pulled the Haskell version of that file and not the nock equivalent, cause Haskell doesn’t make me feel like I’m lucid dreaming after a head injury

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

if I'd found the Nock version first I'd have posted that

someone suggested using urbit names in bitcoin tho this never went anywhere

and this is the funniest idea i've seen in the last 5 minutes: Lightning Network on Urbit