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lemmy.ml/c/piracy and lemmy.world/c/piracy do not show the same content. This a problem. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A user checking out one of these URLs does not want to filter only local post on that instance.

On all instances, this url should mean "show me all /c/piracy on all federated instances"

If you really mean /c/piracy only on that instance, then add something to the url.

The current convention breaks the most important aspect of federation and makes its vestigial appendage.

The current way has user asking question /c/piracy, but on which instance ?

So now they'll all join the same instance . You wouldn't post anywhere else since no one would every see it.

It's a recipe for centralization.

I think this is obvious to most users, were deal with "voat with extra steps" here

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like the idea, but it should be opt-in. So communities can decide if they want to "combine" with other communities. And I would go a step further and not force exact naming schemes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

But why? They could just agree on one and delete the other one. What ist the benefit of having topic@example and topic@otherexample when both show the same content?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should be opt-out, the default should be content is federated. And it is already opt-out, that is what defederation is. Of course defederation is a blunt tool. Defederation should be possible on a per-community basis.

Also, what most mods want from deferation is not "we don't want to be heard by others" but "we don't want outsiders to be allowed to speak here" which is different.

Although I just noticed that posts are not stored in their communities but as sequential numbers on their instance.

like https://lemmy.example/com/post/1579555

If that reflects the internal structure, then disallowing outside from posting in one community but not another is going to be a ton of extra programming.

And I would also like to see people posting comments in https://lemmy.another.com/post/1579555

then from https://lemmy.thirdinstance.com/post/1579555 you would see comments from example.com and another.com as if they were one.

[–] awdsns 3 points 1 year ago

Content is federated by default, it's how I'm reading your post in https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected] and not in https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy

What you propose and mean by "federated" (combining communities across instances by default) presents significant technical difficulties, because there is no central authority of existing communities across all Lemmy instances. Imagine someone sets up a new instance, and some user there creates a community "foo" and becomes its moderator.
Then this instance begins federating with another one, where a community "foo" created by a different user already exists. Which one is the "correct" one? Who is its moderator?