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[–] woelkchen 23 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Mastodon users can already block entire domains. Unless it's legally required, there's hardly a reason why the admins would need to take the decision away from the users.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The whole point is that instance owners/admin are allowed to run their instance however they want

[–] woelkchen -2 points 9 months ago

The whole point is that instance owners/admin are allowed to run their instance however they want

Absolutely. My comment wasn't about mandating an all open policy to all instance admins. Just saying that they don't have to make such decisions for their users. It's different on Lemmy where per user instance blocking will only come in the next release, so for now Lemmy admins kinda have to make such decisions on the behalf of users as well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I agree. Everyone should be able to decide for themselves. My only concern is that Fediverse servers will suddenly become expensive to host because of the Threads traffic. But this would also happen with many users on many smaller instances and is not specific to Threads.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Servers pull content based on subscriptions (follows). Meta can't push content into the Fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No ActivityPub is explicitly push-based. If you follow someone on a remote server, the remote server pushes their posts to your server. Meta can push content into the fediverse, but like any other user/server they can be blocked if its spammy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I think we're talking about two different things. I'm saying that servers ultimately choose what they receive. People worry that Meta will flood Mastodon with unwanted content but content has to be invited in. Although it's more accurate to say that users have to be invited in, like vampires, to serve content. People seem worried that federating means inviting in all the vampires.

When users on server A follow a single user on server B, it doesn't matter if server B has one user or ten billion, server A receives content from one user. The only way to receive all content from a server is to have at least one person following every user on the remote server.

So Meta can't flood Mastodon with unwanted content because you only receive content from users you explicitly ask to receive it from. You aren't connected to the firehose when you federate with their instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I think the point is too many users following threads users as is it more likely to find a friend there than on Fediverse for example. Which will require more compute resources and storage

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Same with kbin users

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Admins host, users don't. It's not the users' decision.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

If the admin decides not to block them it's the users' decision. And users can choose not to use instances who block Threads.