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Israel drove suitcases stuffed with cash into Gaza to keep Hamas in power (www.businessinsider.com)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/world

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Israeli officials are facing backlash after years of Prime Minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu quietly allowing Hamas to remain in power.

But reporting in the New York Times has revealed that Netanyahu's government was more hands-on about helping Hamas: they helped a Qatari diplomat bring suitcases of cash into Gaza, indirectly boosting the militant organization, according to the report.

The calculus — the Times reported on Sunday, citing Israeli officials, Netanyahu's critics, and the man's own reported statements — was to keep Hamas strong enough to counteract the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, allowing Netanyahu to avoid a two-state peace solution and keep both sides weak.

Israeli security officials got it wrong; they didn't think Hamas was capable, or even interested, in launching a large attack against the Jewish state.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I am not against Jewish people, but Netanyahu. There's a difference.

And you even stated the people.were.pissed off over the incompetence of the government. So, it's almost as if the government should have done better than they actually did.

[+] TserriednichThe4th -7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So are you, in the context of this thread, under the belief that is a conspiracy to allow Hamas to do oct 7 in order for Jewish people to take Palestinian land? Despite that conspiracy theory having no evidence?

It is not nust Netanyahu trying to rescue the hostages. It is israelis too.

[–] Sparlock 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You keep saying no evidence but you clearly haven't even tried google since the New York Times shows up pretty easily.

[+] TserriednichThe4th -9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I already replied to this brainless line of thought. Scroll up when you get the reading comprehension.

[–] Sparlock 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You replied by calling people communist for some reason. Yet you claim we are brainless?

How about you try again, and this time think about your words a bit so they make a little sense.

[–] TserriednichThe4th -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do you think the ml in lemmy stands for? Look at where people I reply to comment. What is the current trend online?

Seems like I gave it more thought than you did.

[–] Sparlock 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No I'm still waiting for you to tell me what you think communist means.

[–] TserriednichThe4th -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I will give you an actual answer if you answer this question:

Do you deny that the vast amount of support that hamas is getting western online comes from dsa, progressives, tankies, communists and socialists?

[–] Sparlock 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It comes from people that haven't bought the Zionist line, don't accept Israeli propaganda at face value or that have eyes and can see what is happening in Gaza. The rest is your personal bias getting in the way. This is evidenced by your desire to call any disagreement anti-Semitism to quell discussion. Being anti-Israel bombing the shit out of Gaza is not anti-Semitism and if you cannot see that distinction you are pointless to talk to. That you see support for Palestinians as support for Hamas is another glaring Blindspot you seem to have.

Stop using anti-Semitism as a cudgel when you cannot defend the indefensible, it is gross.

[–] TserriednichThe4th -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You didnt answer the question, when it is clear that is mostly a progressive left issue. If you wont be honest, then i dont have to engage in good faith either.

But I give the answer nonetheless.

It used to be someone that supported labourer rights and owning the means of production.

Now, it refers to all the idiots polluting, by association, actual, valid leftists movements via supporting terrorists. Yall are hurting our efforts for climate change, police reform, immigration reform, etc, by making everyone else think we support terrorists.

I agree that being anti zionist is not anti semitism. But so many progressives are also just targetting jews for being jews and refuse to admit that the hamas goal is genocide of jewish people in totality.

I never said support for palestine is support for hamas. But yall refuse to admit there is no path forward for palestine without the eradication of hamas

[–] Sparlock 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No I'd didn't answer your intentionally biased framing of your question the way you wanted. And then you say I'm being dishonest. I'm done with you. You are just a hypocrite and genocide apologist and not worth the time to deal with. Fuck off.