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weird (adj.)

c. 1400,

• "having power to control fate", from wierd (n.), from Old English wyrd "fate, chance, fortune; destiny; the Fates," literally "that which comes,"

• from Proto-Germanic wurthiz (cognates: Old Saxon wurd, Old High German wurt "fate," Old Norse urðr "fate, one of the three Norns"),

• from PIE wert- "to turn, to wind," (cognates: German werden, Old English weorðan "to become"),

• from root wer- (3) "to turn, bend" (see versus).

• For sense development from "turning" to "becoming," compare phrase turn into "become."

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I'd like to hear your perspectives on randomness. This question has implications for the understanding of othering.

Is true randomness possible?

If not, this would be a limitation of mind.

If so, it also feels like a limitation of mind (inability to predict/know the outcome of an event).

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[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Randomness is your own self-unconsciousness. Yes, relative randomness is possible alongside self-unconsciousness.

In a dream, you don't always know what content you're going to produce for yourself right? Especially when you're unconscious of the fact that you're dreaming. Your unconscious expectations and tendencies (including with probabilities) are generating appearances in your dream.

Originally commented by u/AesirAnatman on 2021-11-05 07:57:00 (hjby7oj)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But deep down I'm pulling all the strings, right? Which means that the randomness is illusory, a result of (self-imposed) amnesia/ignorance.

Originally commented by u/VLSIHeaven on 2021-11-06 14:05:47 (hji785s)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But deep down I'm pulling all the strings, right?

Yes, but not in the way you are imagining. It sounds like you're almost imagining you're fundamental self a material/objective/determinate.

Your power means you have the power to be extremely precise/orderly but also to generate randomness/chaos for yourself within whatever constraints you please. Randomness v. predictability is just another subjective perceptual phenomena, and you have the capacity to generate any variation of perception or any place in between.

Which means that the randomness is illusory, a result of (self-imposed) amnesia/ignorance.

As is any sense of order and predictability.

Originally commented by u/AesirAnatman on 2021-11-06 21:02:36 (hjj746t)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but not in the way you are imagining. It sounds like you're almost imagining you're fundamental self a material/objective/determinate.

Yeah, I was somewhat thinking like this when I posted the question. I was wondering whether apparent randomness is ever "really random", which seems like a misguided question upon reflection. Phenomena are never "really" anything in particular.

BTW, it's good to see you around. I'm relatively new here but I've benefited from reading your old posts while learning about SI.

Originally commented by u/VLSIHeaven on 2021-11-07 02:33:55 (hjk7flg)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks! I should probably go back and review what I wrote because there are probably things I've changed my perspective on.

> Phenomena are never "really" anything in particular.

Exactly

Originally commented by u/AesirAnatman on 2021-11-08 23:59:13 (hjsr9sm)