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Right... I'm saying that an airfoil without angle of attack on a glider will plummet, and a flat plate with angle of attack will glide, because air won't move faster over the top surface of the wing just because the path is longer - instead, angle of attack causes the air on the underside of the wing to slow down, and the air on the top of the wing is not slowed down (in the reference frame of the aircraft).
Flat plate wings are not preferred because there is turbulent flow induced by its movement, not because it doesn't provide enough lift.
All I said was that it's a point of some contention.
I'm just gonna go with NASA on this one:
I think the two of you are having different arguments together.
You're saying it's a contributing factor and they're saying it's not the cause. Both of these things can be true.
We are taught in school that planes can fly because of the shape of the wing. That isn't necessarily true even if it does have influence. It can happen without the wing shape. It may happen more effectively with it, but that wasn't the claim.
You can both be right here.
I'm not sure I agree with you a hundred percent on your police work, there, Lou.
The claim I see here is not that the Bernoulli effect isn't the primary source of lift, but that it isn't involved at all. They double down later saying that airfoils are used over flat wings exclusively to combat turbulence.
And my claim was simply that there has been some debate on the topic among experts, because there has.