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‘Nudify’ Apps That Use AI to ‘Undress’ Women in Photos Are Soaring in Popularity::It’s part of a worrying trend of non-consensual “deepfake” pornography being developed and distributed because of advances in artificial intelligence.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I agree with you nudity being an issue but I think the real problem is this app being used on children and teenagers who aren't used to/supposed to be sexualized.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fully agree but I do think that's more an issue about psychology in our world and trauma. Children being nude should not be a big deal, they're kids you know?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

It shouldn't be a big deal if they choose to be nude some place that is private for them and they're comfortable. The people who are using this app to make someone nude isn't really asking for consent. And that also brings up another issue. Consent. If you have images of yourself posted to the public then is there consent needed to alter those images? I don't know but I don't think there is since it's public domain.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's a problem for adults too. Circulating an AI generated nude of a female coworker is likely to be just as harmful as a real picture. Just as objectifying, humiliating and hurtful. Neighbors or other "friends" doing it could be just as bad.

It's sexual harassment even if fake.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I think it should officially be considered sexual harassment. Obtain a picture of someone, generate nudes from that picture, it seems pretty obvious. Maybe it should include intent to harm, harass, exploit, or intimidate to make it official.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Nudity shouldn't be considered sexual.

[–] TORFdot0 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not all nudity is but there is no non-sexual reason to use AI to undress someone without consent

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The question on consent is something I'm trying to figure out. Do you need consent to alter an image that is available in a public space? What if it was you who took the picture of someone in public?

[–] TORFdot0 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Keep in mind there is a difference between ethical and legal standards. Legally you may not need consent to alter a photo of someone unless it was a copyrighted work possibly. But ethically it definitely requires consent, especially in this context

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

The difference between legal and ethical is one could get you fined or imprisoned and the other would make a group of people not like you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Just because something shouldn't be doesn't mean It won't be. This is reality and we can't just wish something to be true. You saying it doesn't really help anything.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Whoooooosh.

In societies that have a healthy relationship with the human body, nudity is not considered sexual. I'm not just making up fantasy scenarios.

[–] mossy_ 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

so because it's not a problem in your culture it's not a problem?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're just really looking for an excuse to attack someone, aren't you?

[–] mossy_ -1 points 11 months ago

You caught me, I'm an evil villain who preys on innocent lemmings for no reason at all

[–] criticalthreshold 1 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Take it up with God or evolution then

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can't really be that stupid.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago