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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just fyi. Apartheid didn't end because of peaceful protest.

The ANC had been peacefully opposing the Apartheid government. But that all ended after the Sharpeville massacre commited by the Apartheid government.

Then MK was formed ( uMkhonto we Sizwe). MK was the armed guerilla resistance that Mandela and the ANC saw was needed, because the Apartheid government wasn't giving in to peaceful opposition of their government.

You're probably confusing what people say was a 'peaceful' end to Apartheid because civil war was avoided.

And it was only truly avoided because the resistance had to make so many unfair concessions to the international liberal powers that be ( imf, the US etc.) and the Apartheid government. Otherwise the Apartheid government was gearing up to actually start mass murdering the non white population (aka genocide).

There truly are a lot of parallels between Apartheid south africa and israel

[–] problematicPanther 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

don't forget, the MK was also considered a terrorist organization.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly. People don't want to accept it but i see a lot of parallels between MK and Qassam brigades as liberation armed struggle. When peaceful protest fails then violent opposition is inevitable.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is that there's no peaceful organization saying "yes two state solution" or "yes one integrated, non-religious state".

Weaker violence only works if there's a weaker peaceful option.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I think you mean PLA.

And the PLA has rejected all 2 state solution offers, pays out a fund to the families of killed terrorists (including Hamas' and is just as corrupt if not more corrupt than Hamas. Endorsed the 10/7 attacks. They're not a potential partner for peace and have proven it over the last 40 years or so.