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[–] [email protected] 70 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The headline is wrong. Nobody needs to support Israel. But it is clear you must acknowledge its right to exist.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Was going to say that.. the headline is missing

" 's right to exist "

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if the German state required you to acknowledge Rhodesia's right to exist though...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is there a growing resentment and hate against rhodesians?

Is Rhodesia internationally recognised?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I mean it wasn't beloved and luckily it got stamped out before it got recognized.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why should a Palestinian recognize Israel's right to exist? After all, Israel has not even apologized for the terrible acts it committed before its founding as a state. Nor for the terrible acts it committed after the founding of the state to prevent the existence of a state of Palestine for all eternity.

If you disenfranchise, deprive, humiliate and harass a population in such a way that a certain proportion of that population inevitably grows into terrorists (and even the non-terrorists agree to them), then you should not be surprised if terrorist attacks occur. It is inevitable.

The first thing one should do in that case is fulfill the duties that come with having power over a population. And next you should talk to representatives of this population, preferably elected representatives of this population.

Yes, even if they are terrorists, negotiation and government accountability are the best way to turn terrorists into former terrorists. (It has also worked for many Israeli politicians who have had terrorist pasts.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I don’t want to say what a Palestinian should do.

But if someone wants to become German, they must not have extremist tendencies. And not recognising an internationally recognised state is an extremist opinion.

You can still say the Israeli government is committing atrocities and should be removed from office. That is ok.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

So you have to support Israel by acknowledging it’s right to exist.