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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Copyleft is the only valid argument here. Everything else falls under fair use as it is a derivative work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If I scrape a bunch of data, put it in a database, and then make that database queryable only using obscure, arcane prompts: Is that a derivative work permitted under fair use?

Because if you can get chatgpt to spit out raw training data with the right prompt, it can essentially be used as a database of copyrighted stuff that is very difficult to query.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No because that would be distribution, as I've already stated.

If it doesn't spit out raw data and instead changes it somehow, it's a derivative work.

I can spell out the distinction for you twice more if you still don't get it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Exactly! Then you agree that because chatgpt can be coerced into spitting out raw, unmodified data, distributing it is a violation of copyright. Glad we're on the same page.

You should look up the term "rhetorical question" by the way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

So you understand the distinction between distribution and derivative work? Great!