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U.S. Representative Liz Cheney, an outspoken critic of ex-President Donald Trump, said she is weighing a third-party bid for the White House in 2024.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well... If the Democrats can't deliver an actual liberal...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Biden is absolutely a liberal.

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law. Liberals espouse various views depending on their understanding of these principles but generally support private property, market economies, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion, constitutional government and privacy rights.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Lol he hates half of that

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Then why does he label himself progressive and why is he STILL trying to send billions of dollars to continue the slaughter of Palestine?

I'm a life long liberal Democrat.

I dont know where your copy pasta comes from and I'm not clicking on your link.

Liberals are anti-war. Progressives are pro-status quo, which is pro military industrial complex, which is pro Israel slaughtering innocents with weapons and ammunition made by American military contractors.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not clicking on your link.

My man, it's Wikipedia. It's where he copied the text from. You could afford to put in a little effort to engage in good faith.

Liberals are anti-war. Progressives are pro-status quo, which is pro military industrial complex

Progressives absolutely support cutting military spending to divert funding to single-payer healthcare.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Cutting military spending is not anti-war.

Cutting military spending is a clever deal to keep the wars going AND fund Healthcare.

Progressives are pro-war, and that isn't liberal.

Liberals traditionally are Democrat and are increasingly disenfranchised.

Jesus, are you 12?

Give me that urban dictionary link that tells me what a liberal Democrat is. Fuck.

[–] Zoboomafoo 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have never seen this take before in my life

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Never?

The term progressive isn't new.

The new use of the term stems from when Hilary, in a primary debate, refused to identify as liberal (being a life long staunch conservative until she was stuck on her liberal hubby's coat tails), and instead insisted that she was a progressive.

She lost the election to Obama.

When it was time for Progressive-Democrat Hilary to take the office from Liberal-Democrat Obama, she lost to Liberal-Recently-Democrat Sanders... then the DNC disagreed and cast a "revote" to put up Progressive-Democrat Hilary anyway.

She lost the election to Trump.

In the biggest slow pitch in history, America "anyone else"-ed itself into Progressive-Biden, who has spent 4 years jerking off Republicans into a frenzy (oh sorry, reacharounding... er... reaching across the aisle) and funding genocide. Like you'd expect if you listened to Hilary about what a modern Progressive is.

You have been completely unaware of all of this?

They report this stuff extensively...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I dont know where your copy pasta comes from and I'm not clicking on your link.

Can't learn if you don't click, random stranger. I linked to the wikipedia article on liberalism, what that "copypasta" was cited from.

Clearly it's the definitions that are wrong, lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I don’t have anything to add to this conversation but I just want to say you’ve done a great job at reporting news while remaining civil DarkGamer. I’ve never seen you get heated or take an all or nothing stance on an issue and honestly it’s so refreshing to see. You’re proof that people can debate things without resorting to shit slinging and name calling. Keep up the good work 👍

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

americans use “liberal” to only mean socially liberal, however liberal describes both economic and social philosophies

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

economic liberals are all about the free market, social liberals are all about human and civil rights (among many other things)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Progressives are pro-status quo

LOL there's a new one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You’re thinking of conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives?

Are anti-war?

The fuck you smoking?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Pretty sure they meant the other description you gave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

biden is probably one of the most liberal presidents in recent history.....