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I disagree that the dark forest "resolves" the fermi paradox. I believe most if not all intelligent life drives itself to extinction before becoming interstellar. That or celestial threats such as asteroids or solar events.
Meanwhile if there is indeed an entity actively hunting down and exterminating intelligent life I'm sure they will have advanced enough technology to either differentiate between background noise and our signals(similar to how we correct for redshift in distant observations), or simply not rely on radio wave detection at all.
If they don't have that technology, but they still actively hunt than it's probably safe to say they're not in our relative vicinity meaning were talking thousands to millions of years before any of our signals reach them so many lightyears away.
Even short term prison sentences would be extremely cost-ineffective... never mind life sentences. I applaud the consideration but I don't see any real world practicality.... that's why it's not a crime.
And one way this can be done is by shouting yoohoo at all the existential threats out there!
I'm not sure how technology helps you here. You can get a lot clearer as you approach the noise threshold but once you're there, the signal is gone and there's no getting it back.
We imprison people for much less. Bear in mind you would have to be actively building an extremely high-power transmitter and preparing to use it, this is not something people stumble into or do in their garage.
In The 3-Body Problem, Ye Wenjie has to discover a new way to amplify signals by resonating them off the surface of the sun- otherwise there's no practical means of achieving the amplification needed to be detectable. This is science fiction so it's not even clear someone would be able to do something like this.
That's your assumption. Indeed there could be traces in the quantam or something else we don't know about. Either way assuming it disappears completely is just as certain as assuming METI will result in human suffering.
Yes. That is a bad thing. We shouldn't do that, or this lol
The quantum what? This sounds like sci-fi hooey.
Are you disagreeing with the punishment or that there should be any accountability at all for someone who summons obliteration on the planet?
How do you think we should deal with people who are causing climate change?