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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's similar to your position. I just have a different path to a stateless, voluntary society. I also don't really care what the economic system looks like, so long as human rights are recognized.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I also don’t really care what the economic system looks like, so long as human rights are recognized.

What about human economic rights? What use does a homeless starving person have for the freedom of press?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I consider freedom of the press to just be freedom of speech, which we all have.

As for the homeless chap, it depends on their situation. I'd live in a community that would try to help them. I think we're ethically obligated to help people in need as best we can, but I'm not comfortable using violence to force you to help them.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I consider freedom of the press to just be freedom of speech, which we all have.

The thing is we don't. There is no such thing as free speech, any speech that meaningfully threatens the government will be cracked down on. See Fred Hampton. Free speech is a legal fiction in our country.

But my point is that the limited bourgeois privileges you get don't matter if you're starving on the street. You can't meaningfully have those privileges without economic security.

As for the homeless chap, it depends on their situation. I’d live in a community that would try to help them. I think we’re ethically obligated to help people in need as best we can, but I’m not comfortable using violence to force you to help them.

So it is more violent to take food from a grocery store because that hurts the owners bottom line than it is to prevent a starving man from taking bread from a grocery store by kicking his ass and throwing him in a box? Is that your perspective on this issue?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I meant that freedom of the press shouldn't be limited to just people that work for CNN or whatever. I don't think they're separate rights. I didn't mean to say they're appropriately implemented.

Theft of small amounts of food isn't really something I care about. I'm not a fan of police or jails/prisons. We can handle these sorts of crimes more ethically. Robberies are a bit different. If you're someone that visits San Francisco to bip cars then goes back home, you could prolly use a good kick or two if you're caught by your intended victim.

Regardless, I think we, as a society, should be there with the bread. It shouldn't be an issue we have to face.