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Outside of Island nations, who do you think contained COVID? I am not aware of any country without a unique situation that contained COVID.
Sure, China claims they contained it but they were welding people in their homes. That isn't a country in which I would want to live.
Sweden did exceptionally well but they once again are unique. They had Anders Tegnell who stuck to the plan, while you may not agree with it, their culture supported his plan.
I think we would have had a better plan had they ditched Fauci earlier and got someone who wasn't a compulsive liar.
We talked about this. You're acting like COVID was somehow uniquely infectious, but Wuhan-1 actually had lower infectivity, by about half, than more serious illnesses that were prevented from becoming pandemics by a far more competent public health response.
I know you want to act like Trump just got dealt a bad hand but it's the opposite of that. He was dealt one potential epidemic - Biden's been VP or P for at least five - and the virus he was dealt is less infectious than respiratory viruses generally are. It's just that he was so incompetent that his actions turned a regional epidemic into a global pandemic. Did that happen everywhere in the world? Yes, simply as a function of how badly Trump performed, here.
You're the first person to claim that COVID was not unique.
Specifically which illness are you talking about? COVID was highly infectious when compared to most other disease. It had a much longer incubation period, which you don't seem to realize makes a large difference in spreading a disease. It is why Ebola doesn't have large outbreaks, but the flu does.
What seems to be true is you have TDS and you will try to force the narrative to blame Trump. I find that Partisan and hackery at best. At worst, it is a complete lack of morals and ethics.
It's inherently not an unusual infection in terms of its epidemiological properties, is the point. Generally it's a pretty big deal when a novel virus spreads in humans; nobody's immune-competent to it (how can they be, it's new) so we're all in for a bad time.
But SARS-1 and MERS were novel, too.
SARS-1, MERS, H1N1 flu, H2N2 flu, H5N1 flu. Zika probably wasn't ever going to be a pandemic because it's arthropod-vectored and mosquitos can't live everywhere. Ebola and Nipah virus aren't airborne, generally, but they have particular etiologies that make them credible pandemic threats.
Again, not in the original variant. Wuhan-1 has an R0 of only 1.5-1.8. That's less than Ebola, that's less than monkeypox, that's less than SARS-1, and it's an order of magnitude less than measles, mumps, and varicella.
Subsequent COVID-19 variants gained substantially higher R0 values as the virus adapted to what had become its primary reservoir (humans) but that's not something that had to happen; that was the result of the utterly incompetent public health response led by Donald Trump.
Yes, conservatives often struggle to recollect who the actual President was between 2020-2021. Sounds like maybe you have some COVID-19-related brain damage and should get that checked out.
No. Ebolas is less than Covid
https://idpjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40249-015-0043-3
I’m not the one who keeps making things up that I have to correct.
Yes, of course Ebola has a lower R0 than recent COVID; respiratory infections tend to have higher R0. It's easier to infect others when you can do it through shared air. As COVID variants became more infectious the R0 increased. But Ebola's R0 is 1.9 compared to Wuhan-1's 1.8.
But COVID's R0 was lower than other respiratory infections. My post isn't that complicated; there's really zero reason you should have this much trouble following it. My god, man.
I'm correcting you in nearly every post. Your "corrections" are all things you're imagining me saying.