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Just this weekend I got my first bike - a Honda XL750 Transalp. Winter is coming where I live, so when I saw a blue sky, dry roads and temperatures just over 0, I thought I could have a little ride. But that wasn't the stupid, even though I forgot the keys after being completely suited up with thin jogging gloves and winter gloves.

There wasn't any stupid during the ride, although I forgot the keys again after putting on the two pairs of gloves after a little break. Or that I kept hitting the hazard lights by accident, or the high beams.

The stupid was when I got back and rolled into the driveway. I wanted to slowly roll in and park in front of the wall of the garage. Had the clutch pulled and apparently twisted my wrist to get my thumb on the kill switch. The motor revved up so loud it scared the whole family out the house and onto the porch, where they witnessed me rolling towards the wall, bumping into it because I was so startled I didn't remember to apply the brake and me falling very, very slowly and gently (almost with a certain grace, I hope) to the side.

As far as I could see, there's only a few scratches on the bar end and the peg. Whew! But, I was told I bumped hard enough that the rear wheel lifted into the air! Hope that the fork and frame are ok!

Was a real downer after the nice ride, but I guess it's true what I heard, that all riders fall at least once!

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[–] Squeak 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think your first doing a stupid is buying a 750 for your first bike!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nothing wrong with a 750 for your first bike.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Depends on the 750.

This bike I think is definitely too much for a first bike. Tons of power and lots of potential for whiskey throttle.

But some of the cruiser 750s would make a good first motorcycle as they don't make lots of power. Something like a Honda Shadow 750 would be a great starter bike with a comfortable ride and enough power to keep up and have some fun but not overwhelming.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The question I ask when talking about that is "Could accidently releasing the clutch while giving it gas to move from a stop lead to whisky throttle", in this case it's a bike that does 0-60mph under 4 seconds so... Yeah...

My friend didn't believe me when I told her starting on a Honda Cbr500 was better than a Ninja 650 until she had that exact scenario happen that could have lead her to falling from an overpass had she been on a more powerful bike...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not all 750s can do 0-60 in under 4 sec. I've known guys that start out on low powered bikes and lose interest.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They must not have been that interested in the first place then, I started with a 200 before moving to a 650 then 700 then 1000 and my 200 is still one of my favorites!

If the only reason you want to ride is to go fast then you should own a track bike and then go for whatever size you want, you're not sharing the road with kids.

[–] SirSamuel 4 points 1 year ago

Hey man i had a 750 for my first bike. Never got into an accident, never had issues with power or control. It can be done ya know?

(My first bike was an '82 Virago lol)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'd say it wasn't really financially sound! I told my driving instructor that I was interested in the Transalp. He just shrugged. The bike is a bit lighter and has a little bit more power than the CB600F I had in the driving course. At least during the test drive I felt right at home on the Transalp!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a predominantly American Men's thing, as far as I can tell. Many get the biggest bike they can, fail to learn to control it, and then go around chest thumping.

Meanwhile the best rider I know, a professional test rider, spends his weekends teaching Moto Gymkhana on a 125.

[–] scottywh 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A 750cc isn't that big of a bike... I started riding at 6 years old with a 50cc dirt bike but the bike I have now (and the last one I've ridden) is a 2300cc Triumph.

My first street bike was 550cc and my favorite street bike was a 1997 750cc Suzuki Intruder but it never felt like a big bike at all ... Certainly not compared to this Rocket 3.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You didn't go for a Boss Hoss? That Rocket must feel tiny.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Part of the reason bigger engines are desirable in the US is because to get anywhere other than local riding you're going to be on quite a bit of long straight highway at high speeds. I can drive for 15 hours straight at highway speeds and still not leave my state.

A 250 will be absolutely tapped out to the point of being unsafe because you have no reserve power. And that seems unnecessarily hard on the vehicle.

A 500 will typically be usable but uncomfortable because it'll still be high in the rev range and vibrating.

On the longer stretches doing maybe around 75mph I even find myself wishing my 800GS could chill at some lower RPMs (currently around 5k maybe a bit more at those speeds), whereas my brothers 1400 with 2/3 the horsepower of mine just chugs along at those speeds (no tach but I think about 3200rpm is what I calculated and that sounds about right). When I pass him he says mine sounds like a mosquito.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Except that OP is in the UK.

While you might want to go in straight lines most of the time being able to handle corners first is a good idea, plus things like emergency brake and swerve techniques to avoid accidents ... the European test only checks if you can emergency brake from 30mph, stopping from 75 with enough technique to feel like your eyeballs are being sucked out of your skull takes practice.

Hell, I remember one American on Reddit who swore up and down that you shouldn't use the front brake to emergency stop - for people who really love motorbikes extra training is a must, and that starts with a small bike you can drop a lot while learning how to use the whole tire and how to handle a bike when the front wheel locks, etc.

Edit: as for your BMW, why not just add a tooth to front sprocket?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Except that OP is in the UK.

I was responding to the "American Men's" thing.

Hell, I remember one American on Reddit who swore up and down that you shouldn’t use the front brake to emergency stop

That is an unfortunately common erroneous belief. The only upshot is mostly it's non-riders that push it. It is addressed in the MSF course that 60-80% of braking should come from the front. The only real hold outs on that front though are old cruiser riders that never took an MSF because they were grandfathered in, and they think if you touch the front brake you will immediately stoppie or lose traction. Given the weight distribution of their bikes the rear does more than with others but they should still be using the front.

Edit: as for your BMW, why not just add a tooth to front sprocket?

When I take it off-road there have been cases where I wanted 1st to be a bit lower so I wouldn't want that any higher. I swear a while back I had found some two speed sprockets rear drives but I haven't seen any for this bike. That would be an option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I didn't check the context before responding. The MSF course is even lighter on road handling skills than the European test, no?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

S'all good.

Yeah the MSF Basic Rider Course doesn't go on the road. It's an evening of classroom and two mornings of parking lot drills on 125-250cc bikes

Of course there's 50 different states so 50 different ways of doing it but for Texas, if you already have a car license then you do the weekend MSF and then go to the DPS office, fill out some forms, and then they re-print your license with the "M" class added.

There are also MSF BRC2, Adventure Bike, and Advanced Ricer Course but you have to seek out those. I'd like to do them but the nearest place that does those is 80-100 miles away ("the other side of town") so I'd have to stay two nights in a hotel since I ain't driving after a full day of those involved courses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Heh, when I lived in the UK I travelled 200 miles a few times to go on advanced courses.

It's paid off many times for me, as an example last tuesday I came around a blind bend with a bit of speed to find a big fat boar looking confused in the middle of the road. On the advanced machine handling course I did a few years back we covered emergency swerves at high speed (up to 70mph), and I just went around the back of the boar ... without that training I'd have probably hit square on.