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Nah their arguments are invalid because they aren't based in logic or economic theory.
If it makes you feel any better I just think human interaction should be voluntary.
Please enlighten me as to how that is the case.
Because I dont want the most vulnerable folks in our society to just fuxking die. People have chronic conditions that require daily medical care that would not be available for the vast majority of folks in an anarcho capitalist society, if they were available at all. I used to love fantasizing about zombie apocalypses and the fall of society myself, untll i realized my partner who is a Type 1 Diabetic probably wouldnt live long in that future. Wanting an anarcho capitalist future is the highest indicator that you live a life of extreme privilege and dont care about fellow human beings.
Okay, fair enough, and I am by no means intending to criticize you for your kindheartedness here, but that’s literally the opposite of economic theory, which concerns itself primarily with achieving the maximum output possible given a certain input.
Also, consider that this does not mean that it is therefore by nature entirely inhuman and incompatible with caring about people, but rather that the ability to achieve a high productivity is required in order to have an excess of resources than can be used to care for those who cannot care for themselves.
If you think about it, this is in fact essential to maintain human life. Children for instance always require more resources than they can produce, so parents have to be able to produce more than they need for themselves if they want their children to survive. Same goes for society as a whole — the productive members have to be able to produce an excess or the unproductive (weak, sick, or old) will starve.
No shit it doesnt require economic theory when basic logic tells us its a terrible way to organize a society.
Yeah, okay, I get it. You're an idiot and I'm wasting my time.
Ok, so if I ever meet you in our anarcocapitalist future I will bash your head in and steal your house. Gonna call the police?
Nah, might makes right for them, lol
Pot meet kettle
I made a number of well-reasoned and coherent arguments, to which responded with flippant one liners.
You're free to convince me that I misjudged you by actually making an argument, but I'm afraid your childish insults aren't going to change my mind anytime soon.
Lmao no you didnt. You're an idiot wasting my time. So bye bye now.
So you are saying we will produce in excess and give all of the excess to people who can't produce (children, weak, sick, old...) So from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs?
No, I’m saying unless you want EVERYONE to starve, excess productivity is required even under communism.
I'm all for more productivity if the excesses are redistributed
I got this thing for you, it’s called taxes, you’re gonna love it.