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The Inside Story of Microsoft’s Partnership with OpenAI (archive.is)

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Most of the article is well-trodden ground if you've been following OpenAI at all, but I thought this part was noteworthy:

Some members of the OpenAI board had found Altman an unnervingly slippery operator. For example, earlier this fall he’d confronted one member, Helen Toner, a director at the Center for Security and Emerging Technology, at Georgetown University, for co-writing a paper that seemingly criticized OpenAI for “stoking the flames of AI hype.” Toner had defended herself (though she later apologized to the board for not anticipating how the paper might be perceived). Altman began approaching other board members, individually, about replacing her. When these members compared notes about the conversations, some felt that Altman had misrepresented them as supporting Toner’s removal. “He’d play them off against each other by lying about what other people thought,” the person familiar with the board’s discussions told me. “Things like that had been happening for years."

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“Perhaps to a greater extent than any technological revolution preceding it, A.I. could be used to revitalize the American Dream,” Scott has written. He felt that a childhood friend running a nursing home in Virginia could use A.I. to handle her interactions with Medicare and Medicaid, allowing the facility to concentrate on daily care. Another friend, who worked at a shop making precision plastic parts for theme parks, could use A.I. to help him manufacture components. Artificial intelligence, Scott told me, could change society for the better by turning “zero-sum tradeoffs where we have winners and losers into non-zero-sum progress.”

Nadella read the memo and, as Scott put it, “said, ‘Yeah, that sounds good.’ ” A week later, Scott was named Microsoft’s chief technology officer.

christ, I got bored and tapped out too soon. it’s fucking unsettling how hard this article tries to dodge around how insane all of this is — how much it normalizes these bad ideas wrapped in worse nationalism on Scott and Microsoft’s part, and how it tries to excuse OpenAI being run and staffed by cultists as them being problematically enthusiastic or whatever

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I probably should have just told people to skip the article prior to the part that I quoted, I agree most of it was very boring.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I agree, the article is way too credulous about the people working with and associated with OpenAI and doesn't delve enough early enough into the dangerous weirdness of the organisation or the EA/rationalist crowd that have been leading it.