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Two questions.

My family insist on using Whatsapp for the family chats. I have to keep a copy on a device just so I can communicate with them. I do so under protest, as I was always told it isn't secure. My brother has just said

"oh Whatsapp is encrypted, it's perfectly secure".

First, is it actually as encrypted and safe as my brother claims? That would solve everything.

Second, if it isn't, where can I get some proof that we should switch to Telegram or whatever? Proof which doesn't make me look like a raving loony?

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[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have been using Telegram for.... A really long time. A decade? Maybe not that long. But yeah, no reason to change from what works for me. You're right about that.

Signal and Matrix(?) and the others all seem to be a recent development, and although I have downloaded a few, no one else has them or has heard of them, so their directories are empty as I have never found anyone who wants to connect that way. It means I don't know how to use or teach older people how to use the software. I am trying to find a simple evidence-based way to encourage my family to change their minds, but it appears it will only make me look paranoid, so probably won't try.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's fair enough, it's really location based. Around where I am, telegram isn't that popular. I've met a few people using Signal and I have friends/collegues pop up in the "____ has Signal" section of the app.

We don't really have a dominant chat app around here, there's a good mix of messenger/instagram/iMessage, with some groups sticking to Whatsapp/WeChat/Viber.

I am trying to find a simple evidence-based way to encourage my family to change their minds, but it appears it will only make me look paranoid

I think part of it is because it's hard to convince people without first explaining how things work. Not much use in worrying about it if you can't, just look out for yourself. What you COULD do is to use the private option when you need to talk about something sensitive. If the app is installed on their phone then they're more likely to use it, and even if not then you're looking out for yourself