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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The sense of entitlement in some of the replies on that post are absolutely awful

As for me personally, I want to love Wayland. It has great performance on ALL my devices, (except one with a nvidia GPU) and is super smooth compared to X11!

However... the secure aspect of Wayland makes it very difficult, if not impossible to easily get a remote desktop going. Wayvnc doesn't support the most popular desktop environments depending on how Wayland was compiled, and the built-in desktop sharing on distros that have switched over to Wayland often require very specific Linux-only VNC and RDP clients, otherwise you run into odd errors.

I really hope the desktop sharing situation improves because it's a pretty big showstopper for me. On X11 you just install & run x11vnc from a remote SSH session and you have immediate session access with VNC from Linux, Android, and Windows. If you want lockscreen access too then you run as root and provide the greeter's Xauth credentials. But Wayland's not so simple sadly AFAICT...

Waypipe is something I've found out about recently though, so need to check that out and see how well it works at the moment. If anyone has any helpful info or pointers please share, I'm completely new to Wayland and would appreciate it!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

For me its especially services like RustDesk or even RealVNC that are essential, because I have no DynDNS

[–] BrownianMotion 3 points 1 year ago

I know this is not useful for most use cases, but if you login to the desktop on the 'remote Wayland', locally first then RD will work as expected. So if you can change the behaviour of the remote desktop to stay unlocked (IE its in a secure place where others cannot just access the device), then and RD will work with Wayland.

I use NoMachine (since I manage all sorts of devices, and its nice that there is a client and server for everything including phones/arm) and it works for me because many of the machines are actually VM's and I can keep the desktops unlocked and logged in. NoMachines solution for Wayland - is to disable it and use X11 !!

But I wish many of the RD developers would just embrace Wayland and add/rewrite code to support it (If it is in their scope, I don't know) It might not be, since I am aware of Waypipe and Pipewire, but I'd assume that RD devs would still need to include support for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use freerdp for Linux and rd connect on Android, Windows to connect to my Ubuntu laptop as a second monitor on gnome Wayland and it works great

[–] uis 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also wayland is just slower for gaming