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[–] Blue_Morpho 41 points 9 months ago (20 children)

Steam was considered an abomination when it was released. Drm and a launcher to run HL2? GTFO.

Yet here we are where everyone loves Steam. Its no surprise other companies wanted to follow knowing that in 20 years, a horrible consumer policy could become beloved.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Do you even use steam? There is reason why its so loved. Everything else they bring is good enough price for me for steam being a launcher and drm.

Only problem I have with steam is worrying what will happen if valve goes bad or disappears in the future. But I hope it has sunk in to them by now that they will get much more money by being customer friendly and nice instead of being pieces of shit like some of the competition. I still hope that gog will become good competitor to steam.

[–] Aceticon 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Steam will stop working in Windows 7 from the 1st of January.

So decades of games that run perfectly fine on older computers (some lauched as little ago as a couple of years) will stop working if you got them on Steam.

Meanwhile in GOG you can get offline installers which will keep on working forever and ever in the hardware and software the game is compatible with.

Have Steam = be forced periodically to update your computer to keep on playing something you've had for ages. (Mind you, the workaround is to use Linux to play steam games, but people should not be forced to install it and deal with it just to play games from the previous generation - which are still fine as games go, since the gameplay is great and the additional eyecandy for more recent hardware does little to improve gameplaying fun - and in fact are not forced to if they got the games from GOG).

You most definitelly traded something quite big for the moderate convenience from Steam, it's just that you pay it in a delayed way and think "this is great" all the way till then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are many hills to die on about what is wrong with the world and I dont think steam is among the first one should choose imo. But yea, there are things that could be better with steam even if I personally havent had problem with it. Its just that valve not being just as shitty as other corporations seems to be the best we can hope for. I rather have them than nothing or something worse.

[–] Aceticon 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Over three decades of gaming and almost as much of software engineering means I'm pretty weary of things with unecessary dependencies on an external 3rd party, because they're bound to stop working when that external 3rd party decides to stop supporting it and/or goes bankrupt.

In my experience this is not a "might happen" thing, it's an "it always happens" one.

(This was actually a well discussed subject around Steam back in the day when it first came out: all games with DRM that depend on a server on the Internet maintained by a 3rd party will sooner or later stop working when that company doesn't feel like supporting it anymore, and this is inherent to that DRM architecture rather than Steam specific)

I would hardly call "dying on a hill" to prefer to not be dependent on some external company's mid-level manager's decisions about what's "outdated" for stuff I would like or need to keep on working.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That is true. I shall try to keep your point in mind actually, I should add this to the list of things i need to consider about backing stuff up and preserving things I can that might disappear.

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