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weirdness - Mod team members reordered randomly? (lemmynsfw.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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just wondering if anyone else is seeing this, and possibly a bug related to the upgrade?

I just noticed that in the communities that I started, mod team memberships got reordered randomly and I no longer have the option to add/appoint new mods. Examples: [email protected] , [[email protected]

Update: hmm, even in this mod coordination, the membership is all changed, and @[email protected] is no longer top moderator...

More weirdness update Monday: at !DangleAndJingle, I just added @[email protected] as mod. But in the sidebar, s/he is listed out of order and not reflective of modlog transactions...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this type of random re-orderings is a very serious thing IMO

Yeah, I understood your position completely, and it's definitely a P1 bug.

I see myself as top mod of most of the subs I mod.

Here's me trying to transfer [email protected]:

{
    "community_id": 1840,
    "person_id": 97262,
    "auth": "xxx"
}

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{
  "community_view": {
    "community": {
      "id": 1840,
      "name": "ftvgirls",
      "title": "FTVGirls",
      "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n",
      "removed": false,
      "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
      "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123",
      "deleted": false,
      "nsfw": true,
      "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls",
      "local": true,
      "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg",
      "hidden": false,
      "posting_restricted_to_mods": false,
      "instance_id": 1
    },
    "subscribed": "Subscribed",
    "blocked": false,
    "counts": {
      "id": 1066,
      "community_id": 1840,
      "subscribers": 267,
      "posts": 29,
      "comments": 11,
      "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
      "users_active_day": 1,
      "users_active_week": 6,
      "users_active_month": 8,
      "users_active_half_year": 8,
      "hot_rank": 2
    }
  },
  "moderators": [
    {
      "community": {
        "id": 1840,
        "name": "ftvgirls",
        "title": "FTVGirls",
        "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n",
        "removed": false,
        "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
        "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123",
        "deleted": false,
        "nsfw": true,
        "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls",
        "local": true,
        "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg",
        "hidden": false,
        "posting_restricted_to_mods": false,
        "instance_id": 1
      },
      "moderator": {
        "id": 5290,
        "name": "wankbank",
        "avatar": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/ebf19e8b-0008-4fce-bdc8-bdef28a8649a.webp",
        "banned": false,
        "published": "2023-06-12T02:20:36.333327",
        "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/wankbank",
        "local": true,
        "deleted": false,
        "admin": false,
        "bot_account": false,
        "instance_id": 1
      }
    },
    {
      "community": {
        "id": 1840,
        "name": "ftvgirls",
        "title": "FTVGirls",
        "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n",
        "removed": false,
        "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
        "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123",
        "deleted": false,
        "nsfw": true,
        "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls",
        "local": true,
        "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg",
        "hidden": false,
        "posting_restricted_to_mods": false,
        "instance_id": 1
      },
      "moderator": {
        "id": 16088,
        "name": "nsfun",
        "banned": false,
        "published": "2023-06-12T22:01:17.596656",
        "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/nsfun",
        "bio": "why are you here? ",
        "local": true,
        "deleted": false,
        "admin": false,
        "bot_account": false,
        "instance_id": 1
      }
    },
    {
      "community": {
        "id": 1840,
        "name": "ftvgirls",
        "title": "FTVGirls",
        "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n",
        "removed": false,
        "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
        "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123",
        "deleted": false,
        "nsfw": true,
        "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls",
        "local": true,
        "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg",
        "hidden": false,
        "posting_restricted_to_mods": false,
        "instance_id": 1
      },
      "moderator": {
        "id": 18746,
        "name": "data_currator",
        "banned": false,
        "published": "2023-06-13T02:36:46.709481",
        "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/data_currator",
        "local": true,
        "deleted": false,
        "admin": false,
        "bot_account": false,
        "instance_id": 1
      }
    },
    {
      "community": {
        "id": 1840,
        "name": "ftvgirls",
        "title": "FTVGirls",
        "description": "Must have FTVGirls studio's logo/watermarking on posting, to ensure verification of model's age, as well as proof that content is from FTVGirls. \n\ncurrently also mods r/FTVGirls along with u/FTV_LIA, who is the photography director for the website.\n\n---\n\nPlease make a request post to let mods know if you want to help moderate here.\n\n---\n",
        "removed": false,
        "published": "2023-06-18T04:06:06.906636",
        "updated": "2023-06-21T14:02:53.644123",
        "deleted": false,
        "nsfw": true,
        "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ftvgirls",
        "local": true,
        "icon": "https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/07122cb7-84c3-4280-8589-775b1dc24eb9.jpeg",
        "hidden": false,
        "posting_restricted_to_mods": false,
        "instance_id": 1
      },
      "moderator": {
        "id": 97262,
        "name": "b9999998",
        "banned": false,
        "published": "2023-06-18T03:15:06.002740",
        "actor_id": "https://lemmynsfw.com/u/b9999998",
        "bio": "Reddit veteran - modded over 50+ subs, including personal r/JustBecause9999998\n\nFeel free to message if I might know you...",
        "local": true,
        "deleted": false,
        "admin": false,
        "bot_account": false,
        "instance_id": 1
      }
    }
  ],
  "discussion_languages": []
}

Notice that the moderator's user ids are ordered - I think it's just making the earliest registered (i.e. lowest id) account the top mod... @yay

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Experimenting in !modcoord shows that I cannot de-mod anyone with a lower user id, but I can de-mod e.g. @[email protected] who I assume is the original owner.

I'm guessing the intended behaviour is that you shouldn't be able to edit a mod who's been mod longer than you, but they're sorting/checking the wrong thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@[email protected] This instance appears to be ordering mods by user_id, not by date_granted_mod (or whatever).

I've just tested on ds9.lemmy.ml and it's not happening there so it might be just a here thing. I need to do paid work now, so I can't test on any live communities to confirm that it is only here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~Great~~ Awesome investigation! 👍😊

This may also explain why some communities are impacted vs those that are not.