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How to make a coding challenge to hire a new engineer? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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We're a very small team with little experience in hiring but got approval for a new engineer. Basically HR will look for people through the usual channels and I think we have a reasonably good job description. Unfortunately the coding challenge (a 30h+ take home) is atrociously difficult and doesn't really reflect what we do. On the other hand I think the false positive rate would be low. FWIW it's a Linux application and it might be difficult to only count on experience from the CV.

Any ideas how to build a good challenge from scratch and what time constraints are reasonable?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So what we do is, between the first and second interview we have new candidates recreate Twitter over the span of a week. We stress that they can put in as much time into it as you want. By no means does the site need to be functional at all by the second interview. If they spend 30 minutes thinking about it and are able to have a decent conversation, great! 30h assignment is a bit much and a programmer with that kind of time, is a bit of a red flag actually.

The point of the assignment, for me, is not to have some barrier of entry for a candidate. Instead, I use the assignment to:

Have something to talk about
See how good they are at structurally dissecting the problem

Do they get bogged down in details
In what order do they attack the problem

Are able to effectively communicate some basic concepts around web-development

Request sequences
Authentication
Database Schemas

Asses their personality

Do they want to try some new tech
Do they polish

How broad are their technical interests

Do they do tests, did they host the project, did they do something interesting with UI

How deep does their knowledge go

did they use the right tools, do they have experience

Have room for some hypotheticals

How would you do it in a team
what would you do with a month of time

When you look at it like that, the project doesn't really need to be that complicated. A candidate may be able to fake a challenge, but they can't fake an interview.

[–] Drop_All_Users 1 points 1 year ago

I used to let engineers submit code/a project of their choice for my team to review. We would then have a technical interview and it would be partly inspired by the code provided. Do something strange in your work? Well now you're going to have to explain it and justify why you didn't do it some othet way. It wasn't perfect, but I hired a bunch of devs that way.