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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/465141

Everyone I have something very important to say about The Agora.

The Problem

Let me be super clear here to something people don't seem to understand about lemmy and the fediverse. Votes mean absolutely nothing. No less than nothing.

In the fediverse, anyone can open a instance, create as many users as they want and one person can easily vote 10,000 times. I'm serious. This is not hard to do.

Voting at best is a guide to what is entertaining.

As soon as you allow a incentive the vast majority of votes will be fake. They might already be mostly fake.

If you try to make any decision using votes as a guide someone WILL manipulate votes to control YOU.

One solution (think of others too!)

A counsel of trusted users.

The admin, top mods may set up a group to decide on who to ban and what instances to defederate from. You will not get it right 100% of the time but you also won't be controlled by one guy in his basement, running 4 instances and 1,000 alts.

Now i'm gonna go back to shit posting.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Check this guy's post history, then consider his angle.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

he seems to have nuked his antivax posts that I saw before. Or are there 2 people named blackconservative shitposting here?

I also like how the link to 'votes mean nothing' text is just a link to his own post.

That being said, this person isn't necessarily wrong about the proposed voting method in agora being easy to manipulate. Unless we have a specific strategy to excluding bot votes, there will be bots.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lmao true, i guess "black conservative" was already a clue

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does kind of make you think they're not good at looking out for their own interests, eh?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think we should be able to have a adult conversation without attacking my ethnicity or political leanings.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm not attacking anyone. You chose your username.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Yes my post are controversial. I don't expect to be in the trusted counsel. I don't expect to even not be banned in the coming weeks. I'm just a user here enjoying his time and don't want to see other's manipulated by what is an OBVIOUS logical flaw.