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GAZA/TEL AVIV, Nov 22 (Reuters) - Israel's government and Hamas agreed on Wednesday to a four-day pause in fighting to allow the release of 50 hostages held in Gaza in exchange for 150 Palestinians imprisoned in Israel, and the entry of humanitarian aid into the besieged enclave.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Their hostages vs our prisoners (that we hold without trial or accusation)

No bias detected.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Edit: Confirmed that hostage is the terminology used by Hamas to describe their Israeli captives.

“Ezzedeen Al Qassam Brigades Military Wing of Hamas MovementMilitary Information Department”

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“Therefore, we declare that any targeting of our defenceless civilians' homes without prior warnings will be met with the execution of an Israeli civilian hostage in our custody, and this event will be broadcast publicly“

Original comment: Maybe I’m just confused, but doesn’t Hamas themselves use the same terminology?

[–] MiltownClowns 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hard to say with translations, a lot is up to the translator.

*In response to your edit, I thought you were referring to what does Hamas call their people being held by Israel. What Hamas calls their hostages seems less relevant to me.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The English language version is self published and not translated. Hamas also has a number of members who are fluent English speakers.

[–] MiltownClowns -3 points 1 year ago

Good to know. My main point was that I'm not going to put too much weight in word choice for people for whom English is not a first language.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying Hamas is not holding hostages, I'm saying a lot of Israeli prisoners are hostages.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Which ones are the 150 women children to be released from Israeli jail?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Which ones are the 150 women and children to be released from Israeli jail?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's the set Hamas proposed, 33 are women, the rest are mostly now 16-18 year old dudes.

[–] MiltownClowns 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Terrorists have hostages. Countries have political prisoners and prisoners of war.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas has no hostages but POWs then? 🤨

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nope, hostages

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

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