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Hi everyone. I was considering backup options to Glacier Deep Archive, and wanted to know:

  1. Which software do you use to encrypt client-side, obfuscate, compress and deduplicate the data before you send it to S3?
  2. What is the difference between Restore Requests (bulk) and Outbound data transfer and which one will I be using when I want to pull my data from AWS?

I'll be storing approximately 8TB or so of data, which is why I was looking at inexpensive ways to back it up other than buying an HDD outright.

Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Recently I looked into the same thing, since AWS caught my eye with their apparently ridiculously low prices. Then I found this (presumably indepdenant) review, that changed my view on things: https://b3n.org/b2-vs-s3-nas-backup/

After reading that, I won't go with AWS. I'm currently considering to abuse the OneDrive Office Family plan, which costs 99 $ a year for 6 TB of storage (split across 6 accounts), which comes down to 1,40 $ per month per TB. A price that I have not seen beaten by other storage / backup providers.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

The problem with AWS is that one need to bring all storage from glacier to regular S3 (which is quite expensive), and then their egress costs are massive. I read more about it and completely agree that AWS is not worth it at all when pulling data in.

However, BackBlaze is quite expensive. I'd be paying $50 for my storage, which is simply not how much I'd like to pay. At this rate, I'd get a 10TB Ironwolf drive in an enclosure from Amazon for my cold storage.

TBH, I was looking at other providers, and Dropbox looks much less expensive at $20 for 9TB. It's a lot more than the 8TB I thought I'd be able to get away with for Glacier storage, but at least it's not $50. I will take a look at scaleaway, but I simply trust the bigger players to be around and keep my files safe than the smaller companies.

Edit: Scaleway seems less expensive than Dropbox with their glacier option. I really hope I can trust this company because this is an excellent price and I might even be willing to pay as much if it can be kept secure and safe. Now, I just need to read more about the value proposition of Dropbox vs Scaleway Glacier.

[–] Burn1ngBull3t 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hello ! Just adding my two cents for Scaleway. I’ve used them personally for some services (and probably will add s3 storage in the near future)

It’s seems pretty reliable in my opinion.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy 2 points 11 months ago

Does seem reliable from what I read about that. Thanks, I'm considering them as an option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How are you getting a 10TB HDD for $50?

[–] MigratingtoLemmy 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If I were to pay $50 a month for 8TB, I'd have paid about $200 in 4 months. I can get a 10TB-12TB external drive (with Ironwolf/WD Red Pro CMR inside) for about $200.

I should have worded that properly, apologies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

No worries, I should have realized it's a recurring payment. Yes, at this rate you'll make up the cost of the HDD in 2-3 months.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Regarding Dropbox: Where are you seeing 9 TB for 20 $? I'm in the EU so my pricing may vary, but all I can see is the Business plan for 16 € per month per user, with a minimum of 3 users in the plan, making it cost 48 € instead. Do you have access to something else?

Regarding Backblaze: Agreed that 50$ a month is a rough bill to pay, that sums up very fast if youre counting across the years. But their storage is also a lot more reliable than one single hard drive stored in a bank locker, with them always checking their arrays and replacing aged drives.

Regarding Scaleway: If im reading their pricing chart right, it would cost roughly 2 € / month / TB for glacier storage, and 9 € / TB when restoring from glacier to standard storage? A big questionmark for me is how ingress works. If I'm using this for backups in case of total system failure, i'll want to upload differential backups (borg/duplicati) every couple days. How is that going to work with pricing, is that all running through standard storage driving up monthly cost, do I have to manually manage file history and deletion of older stuff or does my backup software handle that? Plus, you loose out on the instant file access that you get with Backblaze, or with something hacky like Dropbox / Onedrive. I'm still undecided which I value more, money or fast access.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy 1 points 11 months ago

My apologies, I seemed to have missed the per user part. I'm looking at $20 a user a year, which obviously makes it insanely expensive.