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[–] monkeytennis 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's crazy in the UK too, where 3-5 year fixes are common. I've know folk who at renewal next year will be paying £500-£800 extra, each month.

My biggest impact has been gas and elec, which maybe added that amount to my annual bill. I can't imagine the stress.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Timing worked really well for us. Finished a 5 year term just before the larger rate rises. Broker was telling me to ride it out with a tracker and the inflation/interest rises will be short lived.

Nah, got a 10 year fixed rate at a rate that is around half the current BOE base. He just couldn't understand that we're fine with 10 years at a rate that might be even double the rate banks offer in say 2-3 years. Because we can afford it fine. The risk is low with the fixed rate, whereas the risk of a tracker/standard mortgage almost has to upper limit.

Also, if the rate actually came down to half our fixed rate it would potentially be worth the penalty to exit early. It's still kinda win/win in the UK, but timing can screw you over.

[–] monkeytennis 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It just feels like a huge gamble. I went the tracker route between 2012 and 2018 only because I didn't want the overpayment restrictions imposed by fixed deals.

Luckily it worked out, had I gone for a fixed rate I'd still be slowly paying it off, at a higher rate.

For every person who did well, there's someone else who didn't, mostly through unlucky timing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much did you want to overpay? Pretty sure we're allowed to do something like 10% of remaining balance per year. Which, so far at least has been fine.

And yes, this is generally how the banks work the risks I suspect. They will lose out on some deals, but gain hugely from others. For us, after 10 years of fixed payments there won't be much left (even less if kitchen appliances stop failing and giving us ways to not put money onto the mortgage)

[–] monkeytennis 1 points 1 year ago

I wanted to pay it down while the rates were low, 10% would've started off ok, but obviously the lower it got, the less that was. Makes sense from the bank's pov, seems a fair trade-off for a fix.