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First RCS now this, today has been wild

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[–] DingoBilly -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even better as a Windows 10 user - get to avoid the issues with version 11 and the issues with Linux!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

W10 also has Edge bundled as system software.

[–] DingoBilly 2 points 1 year ago

I was more poking fun at the whole Lemmy circlejerk that Linux is the most amazing OS ever built and can do anything without fault.

[–] CosmicCleric 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DingoBilly 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

? Thanks for the heads up, not sure how it's really relevant.

[–] CosmicCleric 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

not sure how it’s really relevant.

Your original comment mentioned this...

Even better as a Windows 10 user - get to avoid the issues with version 11

I responded with the end of life date for Windows 10 to let you know that those are depending on staying on Windows 10 can only do so for a limited amount of time, and hence only have a limited time of avoiding issues with Windows 10. That's the relevance.

[–] DingoBilly 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can say this about all software though? Linux also won't be around forever... So it's somewhat irrelevant.

[–] CosmicCleric 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can say this about all software though? Linux also won’t be around forever… So it’s somewhat irrelevant.

First, we're talking about OS's, and not software in general. Please don't use a debate tactic to move the goal posts.

Second, nope, you can't, so it is relevant. Linux has always been here when other OSs have come and gone (OS/2 anyone?).

To your original comment…

Even better as a Windows 10 user - get to avoid the issues with version 11

Just to reiterate, Windows 10 has a shelf life that is very much shorter than Linux's, so you won't be a Windows 10 user for much longer.

Regardless of how you feel about this and/or Windows vs. Linux, you'll need to plan for it.

Make the smart move, you'll benefit more financially and otherwise for doing so.

[–] DingoBilly 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Windows has always been free for me so it's no big issue. But yes, as a current Windows 10 user my point still stands that the best of both worlds is using it IMO. Have the widest support for games and can easily remove any bloatware you want from it already.

You are the one who originally changed the goal posts about it being changed in 2 years time and that being an issue. I'll worry about that in 2 years time - for all we know Microsoft will extend the support.

But also to your point, Linux is very young itself so you can't expect it to always be around. Once it's around for 100+ years sure, but I just don't see that being a thing. There'll come a time where it's no longer relevant.

[–] CosmicCleric 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’ll worry about that in 2 years time - for all we know Microsoft will extend the support.

That link, which it seems you haven't read, is from Microsoft directly, stating their EoL date, so no, that won't change.

But also to your point, Linux is very young itself so you can’t expect it to always be around. Once it’s around for 100+ years sure, but I just don’t see that being a thing. There’ll come a time where it’s no longer relevant.

You truly don't know what you speak of (the italicized part). It's 32 years old.

You are the one who originally changed the goal posts about it being changed in 2 years time and that being an issue.

That's not changing the goalpost.

You said you have Windows 10, so you can avoid Windowd 11 and it's issues that it has that we have all been discussing in this thread.

All I did was respond with that you won't have Windows 10 forever, so you won't be able to avoid Windows 11, which you acknowledged...

I’ll worry about that in 2 years time

[–] DingoBilly 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, I'm glad companies never change their minds about their policies. When they set a date they always keep to it and have never gone back to it due to consumer demand. Oh except they do that a fair bit. Guess we'll just have to see what Microsoft actually does when it comes time.

32 years is indeed young lol. Maybe you are young yourself so it seems older? There are companies that are hundreds of years old that have gone bankrupt in the last few decades, why would Linux be any different? Again, it may work for now but who knows in the future. But 32 years is nothing. There are older Unix-based systems like Itron and QNX still around and commonly used, but not sure they'll last.

And to your last point, I can just keep Windows 10 past 2025... It's not like lack of support forces me up. Do you not realize how many people still use unsupported versions? Check out the XP life cycle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP#Support_lifecycle

95% of ATM's were still using it for example 5 years after mainstream support ended.

[–] CosmicCleric 0 points 1 year ago

So I wasn't going to bother replying, thinking you were either just trolling, or a bot, but my curiosity got the best of me, so I am replying with just one question...

32 years is indeed young lol.

There are companies that are hundreds of years old that have gone bankrupt in the last few decades, why would Linux be any different?

Are you actually aware of the genesis, history, and current status of the ownership of Linux?